[OpenIndiana-discuss] [developer] Gnome and the future

[Irek Szczesniak]

On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 9:58 PM, Garrett D'Amore
<garrett.damore at gmail.com> wrote:
> the original poster was just offering a band aid not a real solution.  please keep that in mind before you crucify him.

I know. My point is that the bandaid is likely causing more trouble
than just waiting for the real solution to appear.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 4, 2012, at 12:01 PM, Irek Szczesniak <iszczesniak at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Alex Caudill <alex.caudill at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 9:46 AM, James Carlson <carlsonj at workingcode.com> wrote:
>>>> On 11/04/12 09:06, Irek Szczesniak wrote:
>>>>> This is useless because you still do not have newlocale(), duplocale()
>>>>> or uselocale() which create or use the locale_t object.
>>>>
>>>> Those can be dummied out as well.
>>>
>>> For example:
>>>
>>> http://git.musl-libc.org/cgit/musl/tree/src/locale/duplocale.c
>>> http://git.musl-libc.org/cgit/musl/tree/src/locale/freelocale.c
>>> http://git.musl-libc.org/cgit/musl/tree/src/locale/newlocale.c
>>> http://git.musl-libc.org/cgit/musl/tree/src/locale/setlocale.c
>>>
>>> I'm actually using this code nearly verbatim on OpenIndiana.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The point of the new apis is that you can have an unlimited number of
>>>>> locale_t objects, all with different properties. As side effect
>>>>> different threads can use different locale_t objects, giving threads
>>>>> the ability to run in different locales. But this feature is NOT
>>>>> limited to per-thread locales as some people may think.
>>>>
>>>> I think the underlying point that the previous poster was making was
>>>> that for a significant number of users, the desktop environment is
>>>> launched with the per-process locale set correctly, and the user happily
>>>> spends all of his time in that single locale.  Being able to switch
>>>> locales on a thread-by-thread basis is certainly nifty, and is perhaps
>>>> useful in some service providing scenarios (e.g., a web server), but
>>>> it's quite unclear at least to me how it'd be very much helpful to build
>>>> a window manager.  Perhaps there are multi-lingual people who really do
>>>> need to have a window manager that can decorate each window differently
>>>> ... but really?
>>>
>>> I just wanted to share an approach for Getting This Stuff To Work(TM).
>>
>> How is this going to work when do run in one locale and do
>> towctrans_l() in a different locale? Or use the collation order of
>> de_DE.UTF-8 while the main locale is en_US.UTF-8? There are so many
>> cases where this is going to fail or going to introduce subtle, stupid
>> or plain dataloss bugs that it hurts.
>>
>> Irek
>>
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