[OpenIndiana-discuss] "OpenIndiana lead Alasdair Lumsden resigns"

[Gary Gendel]

This assumes that there will never be remote user access (vnc, etc.) to 
do development work that uses a GUI interface.  So you can't have SunRay 
type capabilities or even do simple things like web page development on 
that box (without gimp or some other graphics capability).  Basically 
all development would require a non-illumos box.  I currently can do 
this with VNC using my tablet or laptop which has saved my tail a number 
of times when I'm on the road since I'm not allowed to have proprietary 
data with me when I travel.

On 9/2/12 11:47 AM, Michael Stapleton wrote:
> Would not webmin be a good fit? Develop good modules for webmin to
> manage OI with.
>
> Mike
>
> On Sun, 2012-09-02 at 17:02 +0200, Open Indiana wrote:
>
>> It's not that OI doesn't have to have a GUI, it's only that not all settings
>> have to be set OVER a GUI.
>> Of course it needs a decent GUI, but that doesn't imply that you can
>> change/alter anything without getting deeper and into the commandline.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gary Gendel [mailto:gary at genashor.com]
>> Sent: zondag 2 september 2012 16:53
>> To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana
>> Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "OpenIndiana lead Alasdair Lumsden
>> resigns"
>>
>> On 9/2/12 7:23 AM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote:
>>> On 2/09/12 02:48 AM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 1 Sep 2012, Robin Axelsson wrote:
>>>>> I'm fully aware of the power of the command line and it is the
>>>>> command line that really makes me like Unix based OSes (including
>>>>> Linux). But making OI look well-polished with a fancy and easy to
>>>>> administer web-admin GUI that would encourage the average-Joe to use
>>>>> it as a home-NAS / virtual server is not a bad thing. That way OI
>>>>> would reach a higher penetration with a larger user-base and most
>>>>> importantly; it will get _free advertising_. To some extent the old
>>>>> adage "A good product markets itself" has some truth in it. But it
>>>>> must not only be good, it has to /look/ good so that even a less
>>>>> versed person will understand how good it is.
>>>> Focusing on issues like this would be putting the cart before the
>>>> horse.  It is more important to be able to easily build everything
>>>> and incorporate updates than to have a fancy configuration GUI. OI
>>>> popularity should come second to correct functionality and having an
>>>> organization (of volunteers and corporate entities) to sustain it. If
>>>> OI is worthy, popularity will follow, even if only from people who
>>>> already preferred Solaris.
>>> +1. Precisely.
>>>
>> I totally agree.  However, I selfishly want an X-windows server and window
>> manager on my server.  I personally would prefer a simple window manager
>> over a the heavyweight Gnome/KDE camps but there are reasons to go with
>> these.
>>
>> I develop GUI based applications and have just about one of every
>> Linux/Unix/Mac/Windows OS and version running to do build and test sitting
>> in the home office on the opposite coast.  Our clients still have a large
>> investment with Solaris 9/10 so it is important that this builds and runs on
>> a Solaris variant.  Some of the apps can launch external programs, so it
>> determines whether it should use gnome-open, etc. to choose the appropriate
>> application.
>>
>> I telecommute, so when I make code changes I like to first build and test it
>> on a cross section of platforms locally so I don't ship it out to the build
>> farm broken and make everyone unhappy.
>>
>> I run router/firewall/file-share/backup/web/imap,web,smtp mail services on
>> an old V20z.  I have over 10 TB of mirrored zfs storage on which stores mail
>> for each user  With all of this, I seldomly tax it's resources.  I do,
>> however use this to build and test to make sure that it properly compiles
>> and runs my applications.  This has saved me countless of re-spins do to
>> compiler or library issues. Without X-windows and some WM, I would no longer
>> be able to use this machine that way and would have to take the hit for
>> breaking Solaris builds.
>>
>> I recently picked up an Enterprise 450 when I heard of the OI Sparc efforts.
>> However, it came with the internal NIC and the DVD drive broken.  It also
>> has that funky PXE graphics card.  I got around the NIC by putting a
>> fiberchannel card in and a SX to TX converter, and picked up a replacement
>> DVD drive.  I was hoping to not only use it for testing, but to use it to
>> help the SPARC OI efforts but it still requires X-windows and WM to be
>> useful for me.
>>
>> I can't believe that I'm the only one that uses OI to do GUI product
>> development.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
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