[OpenIndiana-discuss] "OpenIndiana lead Alasdair Lumsden resigns"

Reginald Beardsley pulaskite at yahoo.com
Tue Sep 4 15:01:52 UTC 2012

Is it really necessary to convince the freeNAS people to change?

Mark Creamer's response to the thread, "Multiple Windows servers and a OI NAS, how to get there" seems to point to a simpler solution.

Offer as an install time option a configuration of OI w/ ZFS as a file server in a mixed MacOS, Windows & *nix environment. 

That as an "out of box" packaged solution ought to generate a good bit of interest in OI/Illumos.  I don't do Windows, but from what I understand, everything is already available if you know how to configure it.

That would leave just a good HCL as an obstacle to wider use of OI.  Some judicious choices of new SATA & SAS drivers would ease much of the hardware problems.  Some visible momentum would help persuade hardware vendors to support the development of drivers for OI/Illumos.

Have Fun!

--- On Tue, 9/4/12, Robin Axelsson <gu99roax at student.chalmers.se> wrote:

> From: Robin Axelsson <gu99roax at student.chalmers.se>
> Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "OpenIndiana lead Alasdair Lumsden resigns"
> To: openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
> Date: Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 9:13 AM
> I certainly hope you are right. But I
> also hope you are aware of survival bias that may "color"
> your past experiences. It is very easy to look at the
> successful projects that have managed to survive over the
> years in retrospect while forgetting about those project
> that died and fell into oblivion.
> I guess it should come to no surprise that most people who
> use open source software don't care. Probably the vast
> majority don't know about Alasdair Lumsden's resignation,
> let alone that he exists. That's why one should take into
> consideration that for every 100 or so new users 2-5 of them
> may eventually start contributing and developing for
> Illumos. I think incentives such as career opportunities and
> other things that make Illumos and OpenIndiana look "cool"
> should be important to stress.
> Perhaps it would be possible to convince the freeNAS people
> to use Illumos/OpenIndana instead.
> On 2012-09-01 16:48, Bob Friesenhahn wrote:
> > On Sat, 1 Sep 2012, Robin Axelsson wrote:
> >> 
> >> I'm fully aware of the power of the command line
> and it is the command line that really makes me like Unix
> based OSes (including Linux). But making OI look
> well-polished with a fancy and easy to administer web-admin
> GUI that would encourage the average-Joe to use it as a
> home-NAS / virtual server is not a bad thing. That way OI
> would reach a higher penetration with a larger user-base and
> most importantly; it will get _free advertising_. To some
> extent the old adage "A good product markets itself" has
> some truth in it. But it must not only be good, it has to
> /look/ good so that even a less versed person will
> understand how good it is.
> > 
> > Focusing on issues like this would be putting the cart
> before the horse.  It is more important to be able to
> easily build everything and incorporate updates than to have
> a fancy configuration GUI.  OI popularity should come
> second to correct functionality and having an organization
> (of volunteers and corporate entities) to sustain it. If OI
> is worthy, popularity will follow, even if only from people
> who already preferred Solaris.
> > 
> > OpenIndiana is still very young.  Successful OS
> distributions take quite a few years to become
> significant.  It is not something which happens in just
> a couple of years.
> > 
> > Bob
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