[OpenIndiana-discuss] Sonicle XStreamOS repo and XStream Desktop in progress

Wed May 15 19:30:38 UTC 2013

I believe choosing lightweight wm is right way this time - Cinnamon looks great but it's porting due bunch of dependencies probably requires much more resources than Gabriele and other XStreamOS guys has, it should be a separate community project.

Alexander

On 15.05.2013, at 23:14, finid at linuxbsdos.com wrote:

> Yeah, it's a nice suggestion, but keep in mind that I'm not an OI dev team member.
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> What about the other suggestions in the previous email?
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> finid
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> On 2013-05-15 17:36, Gabriele Bulfon wrote:
>> This is a nice suggestion. We would welcome OI developers on our bandwagon.
>> This may happen a bit later, though. First we need some steps to be done:
>> - finish preparing and cleaning our own illumos, userland, X11,
>> desktopland and pkg codebases,
>> ready to be opened as  final source gates.
>> - have new iso files out very shortly as server, desktop, and
>> developer distros, as a starting point.
>> - have our public pkg repo updated with the brand new packages, and
>> fully tested for upgrades
>> from previous XStreamOS iso.
>> Once this is done, we can let OI developer join our code base and
>> bring whatever needed.
>> What do you think?
>> Gabriele.
>> Gabriele Bulfon - Sonicle S.r.l.
>> Tel +39 028246016 Int. 30 - Fax +39 028243880
>> via Santa Maria Valle 3 - 20123 - Milano - Italy
>> http://www.sonicle.com
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>> Da: finid at linuxbsdos.com
>> A: Discussion list for OpenIndiana
>> Data: 15 maggio 2013 16.21.29 CET
>> Oggetto: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sonicle XStreamOS repo and XStream
>> Desktop in progress
>> Here's a suggestion to OI devs. How about getting together with Sonicle
>> to explore the possibility of merging OI and XStreamOS server and
>> desktop?
>> I think it will be better for the community and for everybody and it
>> will bring more talent and resources to focus on a distribution instead
>> of spreading it out to two different distros.
>> What do you guys think?
>> --
>> finid
>> On 2013-05-15 12:52, finid at linuxbsdos.com wrote:
>> Gabriele,
>> A company-sponsored illumos desktop distribution is very welcome.
>> Here are a few suggestions:
>> 1. A graphical installer will make it a hit for new users. Users
>> expect one on a modern desktop distribution. If you don't have a gui
>> installer yet, check out PC-BSD's graphical installer.    Might be
>> easier to port it than code one from scratch.
>> 2. Let's shoot for complete out of the box "it just works." That
>> means, I install it and start being productive without having to mess
>> with configuration files and other manual configuration that should
>> work by default. Think about those who do not want to learn how the OS
>> works before they can send email or interface with their friends on
>> social networks.
>> 3. Excellent default physical and network security posture of the box.
>> 4. Graphical tools that makes it easy for new users to make use of
>> ZFS' excellent features.
>> 5. On the app side, being able to choose between OpenOffice and
>> LibeOffice is a good option, especially since their will be some
>> feature differences. This is minor, but you might want to not bother
>> about pdf readers. Firefox comes with a built-in PDF reader, which has
>> rendered a standalone PDF reader obsolete.
>> 6. LXDE sounds good for a desktop environment, but have you
>> considered Cinnamon? It's one of the most popular ones we have around
>> and because it's built atop GNOME 3 technologies, it's not very
>> resource intensive.
>> That should get us started.
>> Looking forward to the first public release, but if "outsiders" to
>> take a look at it before it hits the download mirrors, I'll be more
>> than happy to take it for a spin.
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> finid
>> http://LinuxBSDos.com
>> On 2013-05-15 09:28, Gabriele Bulfon wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> at Sonicle we've almost finished rebuilding a brand new IPS repo with
>> updated packages from
>> latest illumos kernel, updated userland components, X11 1.13.1,
>> updated pkg commands.
>> We wanted to rebuild everything from available sources, to remove any
>> possible dependency
>> from old packages derived from OI.
>> This repo will be available soon on our public
>> pkg.sonicle.com/xstreamos publisher, then a pkg update
>> will do the job over any previous XStreamOS installation.
>> Then, I'd like to announce that we're also working on a Desktop
>> version of XStreamOS.
>> We've chosen, first, do deliver the LXDE desktop as a lightweight
>> frontend.
>> So we have already packaged all the gnome and other dependencies in
>> our userland.
>> The desktop already works, and is nice.
>> To make it usable, we're packaging all the typical application one
>> may need on a fresh install
>> (file manager, text editor, calculator, terminal, and so on).
>> We've also already packaged both Firefox 20.0.1 and Thunderbird
>> 17.0.5, and they work great on illumos.
>> We have plan to pre-package open-office or libre-office, pdf readers,
>> media apps and so on.
>> We would like your suggestions for what you would expect to have on a
>> Desktop distro of XStreamOS.
>> Thanks!
>> Gabriele Bulfon.
>> Gabriele Bulfon - Sonicle S.r.l.
>> Tel +39 028246016 Int. 30 - Fax +39 028243880
>> via Santa Maria Valle 3 - 20123 - Milano - Italy
>> http://www.sonicle.com
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