[OpenIndiana-discuss] Sonicle XStreamOS repo and XStream Desktop in progress

Wed May 15 19:38:10 UTC 2013

Every suggestion is taken seriously in consideration!
Most of them are already in our plans or are already there, but many are what we were lookin for!
Your points:
1. I think we will start from OI graphical installer as a base, and add requested stuff. But I will
surely check your suggested base.
2. That's exactly our aim, for a desktop distro: you just install it and start working :)
3. Well, network security is built-in the kernel, but I will think how to manage ipfilter (something
we know well at Sonicle) to secure the machine when going public.
4. Yes. ZFS management at user's fingertip is surely something. Apple's TimeMachine is just another
old-style snapshot scheme.
5. OpenOffice and LibreOffice are in our schedule
6. I'll look at Cinnamon. LXDE is tiny and working, even though a little too "windows 7" like. We're
both considering full gnome 3, and a port of Unity too...but LXDE is ok to start with.
Gabriele Bulfon - Sonicle S.r.l.
Tel +39 028246016 Int. 30 - Fax +39 028243880
via Santa Maria Valle 3 - 20123 - Milano - Italy
http://www.sonicle.com
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A: Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Data: 15 maggio 2013 20.14.43 CET
Oggetto: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sonicle XStreamOS repo and XStream Desktop in progress
Yeah, it's a nice suggestion, but keep in mind that I'm not an OI dev
team member.
What about the other suggestions in the previous email?
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finid
On 2013-05-15 17:36, Gabriele Bulfon wrote:
This is a nice suggestion. We would welcome OI developers on our
bandwagon.
This may happen a bit later, though. First we need some steps to be
done:
- finish preparing and cleaning our own illumos, userland, X11,
desktopland and pkg codebases,
ready to be opened as  final source gates.
- have new iso files out very shortly as server, desktop, and
developer distros, as a starting point.
- have our public pkg repo updated with the brand new packages, and
fully tested for upgrades
from previous XStreamOS iso.
Once this is done, we can let OI developer join our code base and
bring whatever needed.
What do you think?
Gabriele.
Gabriele Bulfon - Sonicle S.r.l.
Tel +39 028246016 Int. 30 - Fax +39 028243880
via Santa Maria Valle 3 - 20123 - Milano - Italy
http://www.sonicle.com
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Oggetto: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sonicle XStreamOS repo and XStream
Desktop in progress
Here's a suggestion to OI devs. How about getting together with
Sonicle
to explore the possibility of merging OI and XStreamOS server and
desktop?
I think it will be better for the community and for everybody and it
will bring more talent and resources to focus on a distribution
instead
of spreading it out to two different distros.
What do you guys think?
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finid
On 2013-05-15 12:52, finid at linuxbsdos.com wrote:
Gabriele,
A company-sponsored illumos desktop distribution is very welcome.
Here are a few suggestions:
1. A graphical installer will make it a hit for new users. Users
expect one on a modern desktop distribution. If you don't have a gui
installer yet, check out PC-BSD's graphical installer.    Might be
easier to port it than code one from scratch.
2. Let's shoot for complete out of the box "it just works." That
means, I install it and start being productive without having to mess
with configuration files and other manual configuration that should
work by default. Think about those who do not want to learn how the OS
works before they can send email or interface with their friends on
social networks.
3. Excellent default physical and network security posture of the box.
4. Graphical tools that makes it easy for new users to make use of
ZFS' excellent features.
5. On the app side, being able to choose between OpenOffice and
LibeOffice is a good option, especially since their will be some
feature differences. This is minor, but you might want to not bother
about pdf readers. Firefox comes with a built-in PDF reader, which has
rendered a standalone PDF reader obsolete.
6. LXDE sounds good for a desktop environment, but have you
considered Cinnamon? It's one of the most popular ones we have around
and because it's built atop GNOME 3 technologies, it's not very
resource intensive.
That should get us started.
Looking forward to the first public release, but if "outsiders" to
take a look at it before it hits the download mirrors, I'll be more
than happy to take it for a spin.
Thanks,
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finid
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On 2013-05-15 09:28, Gabriele Bulfon wrote:
Hi everyone,
at Sonicle we've almost finished rebuilding a brand new IPS repo with
updated packages from
latest illumos kernel, updated userland components, X11 1.13.1,
updated pkg commands.
We wanted to rebuild everything from available sources, to remove any
possible dependency
from old packages derived from OI.
This repo will be available soon on our public
pkg.sonicle.com/xstreamos publisher, then a pkg update
will do the job over any previous XStreamOS installation.
Then, I'd like to announce that we're also working on a Desktop
version of XStreamOS.
We've chosen, first, do deliver the LXDE desktop as a lightweight
frontend.
So we have already packaged all the gnome and other dependencies in
our userland.
The desktop already works, and is nice.
To make it usable, we're packaging all the typical application one
may need on a fresh install
(file manager, text editor, calculator, terminal, and so on).
We've also already packaged both Firefox 20.0.1 and Thunderbird
17.0.5, and they work great on illumos.
We have plan to pre-package open-office or libre-office, pdf readers,
media apps and so on.
We would like your suggestions for what you would expect to have on a
Desktop distro of XStreamOS.
Thanks!
Gabriele Bulfon.
Gabriele Bulfon - Sonicle S.r.l.
Tel +39 028246016 Int. 30 - Fax +39 028243880
via Santa Maria Valle 3 - 20123 - Milano - Italy
http://www.sonicle.com
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