[OpenIndiana-discuss] Sonicle XStreamOS repo and XStream Desktop in progress

Wed May 15 20:29:46 UTC 2013

PC-BSD graphical installer is much better than OI's. Full disk 
encryption, even on ZFS file systems, is supported. Also, GPT, ZFS 
mirroring are all point and click.

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finid

On 2013-05-15 19:38, Gabriele Bulfon wrote:
> Every suggestion is taken seriously in consideration!
> Most of them are already in our plans or are already there, but many
> are what we were lookin for!
> Your points:
> 1. I think we will start from OI graphical installer as a base, and
> add requested stuff. But I will
> surely check your suggested base.
> 2. That's exactly our aim, for a desktop distro: you just install it
> and start working :)
> 3. Well, network security is built-in the kernel, but I will think
> how to manage ipfilter (something
> we know well at Sonicle) to secure the machine when going public.
> 4. Yes. ZFS management at user's fingertip is surely something.
> Apple's TimeMachine is just another
> old-style snapshot scheme.
> 5. OpenOffice and LibreOffice are in our schedule
> 6. I'll look at Cinnamon. LXDE is tiny and working, even though a
> little too "windows 7" like. We're
> both considering full gnome 3, and a port of Unity too...but LXDE is
> ok to start with.
> Gabriele Bulfon - Sonicle S.r.l.
> Tel +39 028246016 Int. 30 - Fax +39 028243880
> via Santa Maria Valle 3 - 20123 - Milano - Italy
> http://www.sonicle.com
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> Oggetto: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sonicle XStreamOS repo and XStream
> Desktop in progress
> Yeah, it's a nice suggestion, but keep in mind that I'm not an OI dev
> team member.
> What about the other suggestions in the previous email?
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> finid
> On 2013-05-15 17:36, Gabriele Bulfon wrote:
> This is a nice suggestion. We would welcome OI developers on our
> bandwagon.
> This may happen a bit later, though. First we need some steps to be
> done:
> - finish preparing and cleaning our own illumos, userland, X11,
> desktopland and pkg codebases,
> ready to be opened as  final source gates.
> - have new iso files out very shortly as server, desktop, and
> developer distros, as a starting point.
> - have our public pkg repo updated with the brand new packages, and
> fully tested for upgrades
> from previous XStreamOS iso.
> Once this is done, we can let OI developer join our code base and
> bring whatever needed.
> What do you think?
> Gabriele.
> Gabriele Bulfon - Sonicle S.r.l.
> Tel +39 028246016 Int. 30 - Fax +39 028243880
> via Santa Maria Valle 3 - 20123 - Milano - Italy
> http://www.sonicle.com
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> Oggetto: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sonicle XStreamOS repo and XStream
> Desktop in progress
> Here's a suggestion to OI devs. How about getting together with
> Sonicle
> to explore the possibility of merging OI and XStreamOS server and
> desktop?
> I think it will be better for the community and for everybody and it
> will bring more talent and resources to focus on a distribution
> instead
> of spreading it out to two different distros.
> What do you guys think?
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> finid
> On 2013-05-15 12:52, finid at linuxbsdos.com wrote:
> Gabriele,
> A company-sponsored illumos desktop distribution is very welcome.
> Here are a few suggestions:
> 1. A graphical installer will make it a hit for new users. Users
> expect one on a modern desktop distribution. If you don't have a gui
> installer yet, check out PC-BSD's graphical installer.    Might be
> easier to port it than code one from scratch.
> 2. Let's shoot for complete out of the box "it just works." That
> means, I install it and start being productive without having to mess
> with configuration files and other manual configuration that should
> work by default. Think about those who do not want to learn how the OS
> works before they can send email or interface with their friends on
> social networks.
> 3. Excellent default physical and network security posture of the box.
> 4. Graphical tools that makes it easy for new users to make use of
> ZFS' excellent features.
> 5. On the app side, being able to choose between OpenOffice and
> LibeOffice is a good option, especially since their will be some
> feature differences. This is minor, but you might want to not bother
> about pdf readers. Firefox comes with a built-in PDF reader, which has
> rendered a standalone PDF reader obsolete.
> 6. LXDE sounds good for a desktop environment, but have you
> considered Cinnamon? It's one of the most popular ones we have around
> and because it's built atop GNOME 3 technologies, it's not very
> resource intensive.
> That should get us started.
> Looking forward to the first public release, but if "outsiders" to
> take a look at it before it hits the download mirrors, I'll be more
> than happy to take it for a spin.
> Thanks,
> --
> finid
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> On 2013-05-15 09:28, Gabriele Bulfon wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> at Sonicle we've almost finished rebuilding a brand new IPS repo with
> updated packages from
> latest illumos kernel, updated userland components, X11 1.13.1,
> updated pkg commands.
> We wanted to rebuild everything from available sources, to remove any
> possible dependency
> from old packages derived from OI.
> This repo will be available soon on our public
> pkg.sonicle.com/xstreamos publisher, then a pkg update
> will do the job over any previous XStreamOS installation.
> Then, I'd like to announce that we're also working on a Desktop
> version of XStreamOS.
> We've chosen, first, do deliver the LXDE desktop as a lightweight
> frontend.
> So we have already packaged all the gnome and other dependencies in
> our userland.
> The desktop already works, and is nice.
> To make it usable, we're packaging all the typical application one
> may need on a fresh install
> (file manager, text editor, calculator, terminal, and so on).
> We've also already packaged both Firefox 20.0.1 and Thunderbird
> 17.0.5, and they work great on illumos.
> We have plan to pre-package open-office or libre-office, pdf readers,
> media apps and so on.
> We would like your suggestions for what you would expect to have on a
> Desktop distro of XStreamOS.
> Thanks!
> Gabriele Bulfon.
> Gabriele Bulfon - Sonicle S.r.l.
> Tel +39 028246016 Int. 30 - Fax +39 028243880
> via Santa Maria Valle 3 - 20123 - Milano - Italy
> http://www.sonicle.com
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