[OpenIndiana-discuss] Chm viewer, xchm and Hipster

[Gary Gendel]

Just to interject my own feelings...

If it weren't for OI then I would have left OpenSolaris a long time 
ago.  I applaud the work done and understand the ongoing pain that 
moving towards a goal with so few people takes. In a SOHO environment, 
one machine does a lot of work, including building and testing GUI 
applications.  We don't develop products for [Open]Solaris anymore but 
you can't believe how powerful testing on different architectures helps 
find hidden flaws.  Our server side runs on Linux, but our clients (both 
GUI and command line) run on Windows, Linux, and Mac OS/X.  We run 
regressions on various flavors of these plus OpenIndiana.  It's amazing 
how many bad things Linux suppresses  that surfaces under OpenIndiana.  
As we move from Sun libraries to Gnu libraries this may be less 
important, but I still see a value in doing this for our products.

We currently use hipster and it's instability has never been a big 
problem for us as we upgrade and test.  If we see something important 
has gone awry, we report it and roll back.

Are there things that we feel are lacking?  Absolutely but we work 
around them.  When things break of are deprecated we install 
replacements.  For us, not supporting DHCPv6 PD is a drawback since this 
is the method our ISP uses to give us a block of IPV6 addresses.  I 
built the ISC dhcp server but I couldn't figure how to integrate it into 
illumos so it functioned correctly, so I resorted to a 4-to-6 tunnel 
using Hurricane Electric.  The good side was that I was able to put the 
ISC dhcp client into poi-userland before the sun dhcp meltdown.

I contribute the little I can but find my "sore spots" don't jive with 
most of the illumos community, however OpenIndiana is fairly close.  I 
don't need an overblown window management system and I long for the days 
when the whole X11 infrastructure (including WM) only took about 12Megs 
overhead to run on the Sparc IPC (xfwm). Tribblix is an alternative, but 
I haven't bought into Peter's vision yet as it is still a moving 
target.  I consider it as stable as hipster so there is no impetus to 
jump ship.

I just jumped in to make it known that there are some people that really 
appreciate the work going into hipster.

Gary

On 12/26/2014 07:47 AM, Евгений Парфенов wrote:
> And i think admin have to balance between human resources and machine 
> resources.
> If IT have not economic effective than why they need company?
> Im trying to say that if operating system will be more usable 
> (effectivly from command line) than more IT specialist will use this 
> operationg system.
> And question is not about "how many administrators will be use it".
> The question is "how many peple will use it and when project will die?".
> Open source not for system administrators only.
>
> 26.12.2014 21:40, Dmitry Kozhinov пишет:
>>> gui uses more resources than server have to
>>
>> Server admin should use less human resources, not a machine.
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