[OpenIndiana-discuss] Chm viewer, xchm and Hipster

[Евгений Парфенов]

I dont mean that linux steeper than linux
I just want to say that oi is more difficult in the assimilation
and its not cool

26.12.2014 22:28, Gary Gendel пишет:
> Just to interject my own feelings...
>
> If it weren't for OI then I would have left OpenSolaris a long time 
> ago.  I applaud the work done and understand the ongoing pain that 
> moving towards a goal with so few people takes. In a SOHO environment, 
> one machine does a lot of work, including building and testing GUI 
> applications.  We don't develop products for [Open]Solaris anymore but 
> you can't believe how powerful testing on different architectures 
> helps find hidden flaws.  Our server side runs on Linux, but our 
> clients (both GUI and command line) run on Windows, Linux, and Mac 
> OS/X.  We run regressions on various flavors of these plus 
> OpenIndiana.  It's amazing how many bad things Linux suppresses  that 
> surfaces under OpenIndiana.  As we move from Sun libraries to Gnu 
> libraries this may be less important, but I still see a value in doing 
> this for our products.
>
> We currently use hipster and it's instability has never been a big 
> problem for us as we upgrade and test.  If we see something important 
> has gone awry, we report it and roll back.
>
> Are there things that we feel are lacking?  Absolutely but we work 
> around them.  When things break of are deprecated we install 
> replacements.  For us, not supporting DHCPv6 PD is a drawback since 
> this is the method our ISP uses to give us a block of IPV6 addresses.  
> I built the ISC dhcp server but I couldn't figure how to integrate it 
> into illumos so it functioned correctly, so I resorted to a 4-to-6 
> tunnel using Hurricane Electric.  The good side was that I was able to 
> put the ISC dhcp client into poi-userland before the sun dhcp meltdown.
>
> I contribute the little I can but find my "sore spots" don't jive with 
> most of the illumos community, however OpenIndiana is fairly close.  I 
> don't need an overblown window management system and I long for the 
> days when the whole X11 infrastructure (including WM) only took about 
> 12Megs overhead to run on the Sparc IPC (xfwm). Tribblix is an 
> alternative, but I haven't bought into Peter's vision yet as it is 
> still a moving target.  I consider it as stable as hipster so there is 
> no impetus to jump ship.
>
> I just jumped in to make it known that there are some people that 
> really appreciate the work going into hipster.
>
> Gary
>
> On 12/26/2014 07:47 AM, Евгений Парфенов wrote:
>> And i think admin have to balance between human resources and machine 
>> resources.
>> If IT have not economic effective than why they need company?
>> Im trying to say that if operating system will be more usable 
>> (effectivly from command line) than more IT specialist will use this 
>> operationg system.
>> And question is not about "how many administrators will be use it".
>> The question is "how many peple will use it and when project will die?".
>> Open source not for system administrators only.
>>
>> 26.12.2014 21:40, Dmitry Kozhinov пишет:
>>>> gui uses more resources than server have to
>>>
>>> Server admin should use less human resources, not a machine.
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