[OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox

[Jonathan Adams]

Hi Till,

a couple of observations on RDP clients.

if you need to connect to a "terminal services gateway" (or whatever
they've named it in the current release), you need to look at using the
latest bleeding edge freerdp.

If, additionally, the server you're connecting to has had all the security
patches and the administrator has set the security to high, you will need
to use the Microsoft client ...

The Linux clients are always playing catch up, and Microsoft (up until now)
hasn't shared it's plans for RDP.

If you are the one in charge of the RDP server, then it works amazingly
well, far better and lighter than any VNC service. (possibly Microsoft's
greatest "product")

Jon

On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 at 19:45, Till Wegmüller <toasterson at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Tim
>
> It is quite hard to get to Feature parity with Virtualbox when it comes
> to Desktop Features. Both KVM and bHyve have traditionally been more
> used in the Server and Cloud Market. However I believe some workarounds
> can be made.
>
> First Proper Graphics Integration. I have since long ago stopped using
> any Virtualmachine Console for something like daily work with a GUI
> (Windows) The Built in RDP Server available in almost any Windows
> Version is massively Powerfull and the FOSS Implementation xfreerdp
> works well for many Use cases. Including Clipbord sharing any much more.
> Using the Virtual Machines Remote Desktop Capability is what you want in
> most cases.
>
> RedHat tried to offer a competing Product to Microsofts RDP with Spice
> but did not succeed that much. And as is unfortunately common with
> RedHat Software it makes heavy use of Linux exclusive functionality.
>
> Both bHyve and QEMU use VNC as default. TigerVNC which we have packaged
> should allow for Good resolution and Clipboard Sharing. You may need the
> Virtio Windows Dirvers and the Quemu Guest Agent though. I would guess
> since Virtualbox also uses software on the Guest for this purpose.
>
> bHyve looks like to be a step Back when it comes to Desktop features.
>
> As for Resolution. This depends very much on the Graphics device Qemu
> presents to the VM. We seem to have cirrus, qxl, vmware and std
> available. I believe std is vesa. At least qxl, cirrus and vmware should
> be able to support 1080p Dsktop resolutions. You will need to pass the
> correct -vga option when starting the VM.
>
> As for shared Folders. The situation seems a lot better here for both
> KVM and bHyve. Both Support virtio-9p aka VirtFS. Which has kernel
> drivers for at least Linux which can use the Filesystem as Root
> apparently. Unfortunatly Windows Driver Work is not yet that complete
> see [0]. But with some Poking of both the ReactOS and the virtio-win
> Community this will be the way to go for shared folders. What remains as
> a question is if we have virtio-9p support compiled with our version of
> Qemu as it is quite recent. See [1] for examples of usage.
>
> While finishing this mail I noticed the Features list on freerdp [2]. It
> has everything you wanted. Given the feature compiles in Illumos. I
> think the Quickest way to get to feature parity is using Windows RDP
> server and Freedrp.
>
> [0] https://github.com/virtio-win/kvm-guest-drivers-windows/issues/126
> [1] https://github.com/FreeRDP/FreeRDP/wiki/CommandLineInterface
> [2] https://github.com/FreeRDP/FreeRDP/wiki/CommandLineInterface
>
> Researching Greetings
> Till
> On 11/14/18 07:37 PM, Tim Mooney wrote:
> > In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox, Stephan Althaus
> > said...:
> >
> >> If you are on OmniOs / Omniosce, you have Bhyve.
> >> You can use that instead of virtualbox.
> >>
> >> With Openindiana, you could use QEMU-KVM as well..
> >> What are your personal reasons not to do so?
> >
> > There was a thread a couple weeks ago where some people, myself included,
> > posted some of the reasons why they had previously found VirtualBox
> > preferrable to KVM.  The "feature parity" part of the thread kind of
> > starts with my post:
> >
> >
> https://openindiana.org/pipermail/openindiana-discuss/2018-October/022445.html
> >
> >
> > Tim
>
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