[OpenIndiana-discuss] Auto remove of unneeded packages?

Judah Richardson judahrichardson at gmail.com
Thu Feb 25 16:22:56 UTC 2021


On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 9:37 AM cretin1997 via openindiana-discuss <
openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org> wrote:

> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On Thursday, February 25, 2021 1:14 PM, Stephan Althaus
> <Stephan.Althaus at Duedinghausen.eu> wrote:
>
> > On 02/25/21 05:49 AM, Judah Richardson wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 8:32 PM cretin1997 cretin1997 at protonmail.com
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> > > > On Thursday, February 25, 2021 9:28 AM, Judah Richardson <
> > > > judahrichardson at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Strong second to this question, in tandem with my pkg clean
> equivalent
> > > > > question on a previous thread.
> > > > > FWIW if you use the pkgsrc repo, it's managed by pgkin, which
> supports
> > > > > clean (I think?) & autoremove.
> > > > > Sorry for the lack of formatting; I'm on a phone.
> > > >
> > > > I don't track the mailing list strictly so I don't know about your
> thread.
> > > > Most of the time mails just redirected to my spam box and I cherry
> pick the
> > > > thread I wanted to answer. Somehow I ignored your thread.
> > > > If you already have a solution, could you CC it to me? Thanks.
> > >
> > > No, I don't. No one answered my question in that thread. From my crude
> > > understanding of what was discussed, pkg state is pretty much frozen
> in the
> > > boot environment (BE, which allows for system rollbacks) via ZFS
> snapshots,
> > > and the boot environment is managed via beadm. As a result of this, the
> > > typical concepts of clearing pkg cache and autoremoving unused
> dependencies
> > > don't apply to OI, as each BE is its own self-contained entity.
> > >
> > > > p/s: I don't use pkgsrc.
> > >
> > > No worries, was just dropping that tidbit of information. IMO it's
> kinda
> > > hard to get up-to-date builds of many mainstream packages if you don't
> use
> > > it, so I kind of assumed most OI users did. I see that assumption was
> > > wrong.
> > >
> > > openindiana-discuss mailing list
> > > openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
> > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
> >
> > Hello!
> >
> > These BootEinvironments are very handy when you get into trouble after
> > some crude pkg fiddling.
> > On Linux installations you are in a mess if something severly happened,
> > with the BE on OI/Illumos and FreeBSD now (i think)
> > you just choose the previous BE and destroy the corrupted one later -
> > easy-peasy.
> >
> > It would allow selectable installations of OI with different package
> > selections on one root pool
> >
> > -   if you think you need to and take care and set the BE names when
> doing
> >     something with pkg.
> >
> >     I love it.
> >
> >     :-)
> >
> >     Stephan
> >
> >
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>
> Yeah. I know this feature is handy. But this also means running
> OpenIndiana is more costly than Linux on the same hardware, especially if
> it's a VM.
>
Maybe, but Illumos itself gives the impression it was developed to be a
host, not a guest.

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