[OpenIndiana-discuss] Shell to use?

[Judah Richardson]

On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 12:40 PM Araragi Hokuto <araragihokuto at outlook.com>
wrote:

>  From my experience, the shell's performance hardly makes large
> difference,

Same here. I use Bash (OI + 3 Linux distros) and tcsh (FreeBSD only) and am
a former Fish (GhostBSD) and zsh (Project Trident) user. OI does appear to
be slower on some tasks, but I would attribute that to available manpower
to optimize and test (often ported) code, not to the shell.

because the shell itself is *not* that different (that is,
> if there's a difference in the first place: most *nix I've ever seen
> ships with the same set of shells).
>
> Given that you are stating the output printing is slow, I would like to
> confirm your display setting first:
>
> 1) Are you running OI inside a vm, or are you running it on real
> hardwares? If later, can you provide the specs of hardware in use?
>
> 2) What interface are you using, video console, terminal emulator under
> X, or something else (through ssh, etc)?
>
>      a) If using video console, are you using VGA text console, or BIOS
> graphical console, or UEFI console? All three of them have significant
> performance difference on my hardware.
>
>      b) If using X, what video driver are you using? Look into your Xorg
> log if you are not sure.
>
>      c) If its something else, priovide more infomation so we can look
> into it.
>
> I would at least confirm the problem really lies inside shell before
> asking maintainers to update it, and I would *NEVER* send out a mail
> with something like "OI is too slow for me so GO GET LINUX'S SHELL AT
> ONCE". Don't blame Google translator for it; we can tell the difference
> bewteen poor translation and true disrespect, and disrespectful mail
> calls for disrespectful replies.
>
> On 1/20/21 12:46 AM, Hung Nguyen Gia via openindiana-discuss wrote:
> > What is profiled?
> >
> > I don't think it's gmake at all.
> >
> > How could you explain the slowness when it 'Checking for...' something?
> >
> > This stage is plain configure script, gmake is not yet invoked.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---- On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 23:38:21 +0700 Aurélien Larcher <
> aurelien.larcher at gmail.com> wrote ----
> >
> >   > On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 5:20 PM Hung Nguyen Gia via
> openindiana-discuss <
> >   > openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org> wrote:
> >   >
> >   > > Everything on OI is too slow, so I decided to go another route.
> >   > >
> >   > > I tried with bash as default shell on FreeBSD and the result is
> the same.
> >   > >
> >   > > Also tried on Debian 10 with export SH=/bin/bash, it's pretty much
> as fast
> >   > > as on FreeBSD if not to say faster.
> >   > >
> >   > > Bash maybe not the problem.
> >   > >
> >   >
> >   > Have you profiled gnu make?
> >   >
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > > ---- On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 12:38:28 +0700 edward <
> edwardmgibson01 at gmail.com>
> >   > > wrote ----
> >   > >
> >   > >  >
> >   > >  > On 1/18/21 8:27 PM, Hung Nguyen Gia via openindiana-discuss
> wrote:
> >   > >  > > The output printed on the screen 'Checking for...' is line by
> line,
> >   > > very slow. Meanwhile, the same thing on FreeBSD is blazing fast
> that I
> >   > > can't even see what's going on at all.
> >   > >  >
> >   > >  > suggest to try the same type of shell freebsd uses?
> >   > >  >
> >   > >  >
> >   > >  >
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