[OpenIndiana-discuss] Shell to use?

[Hung Nguyen Gia]

I will took me hours to write a very long mail to answer each of your points.

So I will give you a short summary: I have tried it on both physical machine and virtual machine, my graphics performance is good on the physical machine, I could watch 4K video without much tearing. I would say it's slow in any circumstances. Not only the output printing is slow. I really measured the time it took to complete the jobs to do comparison.

Hater gonna hate. I know you hate me. So I don't mind.

The fact is both Linux and OI are using bash as their default login shell for user, though.

Please do a little investigation before you post and don't let your plain hatred for someone to ruin your investigation.

I didn't asked to add any Linux shell at all. Please keep that in mind.




---- On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 01:40:13 +0700 Araragi Hokuto <araragihokuto at outlook.com> wrote ----

 > From my experience, the shell's performance hardly makes large 
 > difference, because the shell itself is *not* that different (that is, 
 > if there's a difference in the first place: most *nix I've ever seen 
 > ships with the same set of shells).
 > 
 > Given that you are stating the output printing is slow, I would like to 
 > confirm your display setting first:
 > 
 > 1) Are you running OI inside a vm, or are you running it on real 
 > hardwares? If later, can you provide the specs of hardware in use?
 > 
 > 2) What interface are you using, video console, terminal emulator under 
 > X, or something else (through ssh, etc)?
 > 
 >      a) If using video console, are you using VGA text console, or BIOS 
 > graphical console, or UEFI console? All three of them have significant 
 > performance difference on my hardware.
 > 
 >      b) If using X, what video driver are you using? Look into your Xorg 
 > log if you are not sure.
 > 
 >      c) If its something else, priovide more infomation so we can look 
 > into it.
 > 
 > I would at least confirm the problem really lies inside shell before 
 > asking maintainers to update it, and I would *NEVER* send out a mail 
 > with something like "OI is too slow for me so GO GET LINUX'S SHELL AT 
 > ONCE". Don't blame Google translator for it; we can tell the difference 
 > bewteen poor translation and true disrespect, and disrespectful mail 
 > calls for disrespectful replies.
 > 
 > On 1/20/21 12:46 AM, Hung Nguyen Gia via openindiana-discuss wrote:
 > > What is profiled?
 > >
 > > I don't think it's gmake at all.
 > >
 > > How could you explain the slowness when it 'Checking for...' something?
 > >
 > > This stage is plain configure script, gmake is not yet invoked.
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > ---- On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 23:38:21 +0700 Aurélien Larcher <aurelien.larcher at gmail.com> wrote ----
 > >
 > >   > On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 5:20 PM Hung Nguyen Gia via openindiana-discuss <
 > >   > openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org> wrote:
 > >   >
 > >   > > Everything on OI is too slow, so I decided to go another route.
 > >   > >
 > >   > > I tried with bash as default shell on FreeBSD and the result is the same.
 > >   > >
 > >   > > Also tried on Debian 10 with export SH=/bin/bash, it's pretty much as fast
 > >   > > as on FreeBSD if not to say faster.
 > >   > >
 > >   > > Bash maybe not the problem.
 > >   > >
 > >   >
 > >   > Have you profiled gnu make?
 > >   >
 > >   > >
 > >   > >
 > >   > >
 > >   > >
 > >   > > ---- On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 12:38:28 +0700 edward <edwardmgibson01 at gmail.com>
 > >   > > wrote ----
 > >   > >
 > >   > >  >
 > >   > >  > On 1/18/21 8:27 PM, Hung Nguyen Gia via openindiana-discuss wrote:
 > >   > >  > > The output printed on the screen 'Checking for...' is line by line,
 > >   > > very slow. Meanwhile, the same thing on FreeBSD is blazing fast that I
 > >   > > can't even see what's going on at all.
 > >   > >  >
 > >   > >  > suggest to try the same type of shell freebsd uses?
 > >   > >  >
 > >   > >  >
 > >   > >  >
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