[OpenIndiana-discuss] OI Foundation

Thu May 27 05:46:12 UTC 2021

Am 27.05.21 um 00:01 schrieb Till Wegmueller:
> Ok, Just a quick Info mail before everybody gets attached to things.
>
> In the Maintainer call the founding of a Foundation/ or Rather
> Association has been discussed quite a bit. And it's in fact a process
> that was started once but not with a high priority. Thus far getting
> in Volunteers has been a higher priority rather than Organising cash
> or governance.
>
> I get the benefits of a Foundation and a central spot to look at in
> Governance, but thus far we are one core developer (Andreas Wacknitz)
> and supporting maintainers. I love the initiative and
I really hope that the situation regarding maintainers will change in
the future. We have some "dormant" core maintainers who aren't be able
to dedicate the time they used to spend for OI at the moment. Maybe that
will change back. And maybe we will find new core maintainers, too.
After all it's not rocket science and we all started at the same level.

> Engagement that people bring here. And it's needed. But we don't need
> an official Signoff space yet. If people are willing to invest into
> development, we are not holding you guys back. But please be aware who
> you are and how much you have to do with the OI and in fact illumos
> brand and if another name is not more appropriate for an outside
> initiated initiative. ;)
The idea of funding development is nice. If you want to support
distributions in the illumos world you can do that in different ways.
Eg. OmniOS is driven by companies. You can help them by buying support
contracts (https://omnios.org/invoice.html) or becoming a patron
(https://omnios.org/patron.html).
Then there is also Tribblix, which can also be used as a desktop:
http://www.tribblix.org/
I don't know how to help/fund Peter. Maybe you can ask him directly.

Back to OpenIndiana: it's more or less the direct successor of
OpenSolaris (at least for the open source world). We'll automatically
get changes from illumos-gate. This is typically new or enhanced drivers
for devices the commercial entities are interested (read: network and
storage or general enhancements like BHyVE, KVM, compilers and so on).
The involved commercial entities don't seem to be interested enough in
desktop usage of illumos derived distributions to fund the development
of or work on desktop things like
  - drivers for graphics cards
  - wifi
  - desktop environments

To a lesser degree this is also true for X11. These are the areas OI has
most interest to enhance the situation and being able to pay for work
here would be nice.
I think you should also think about what to do with possible funds, that
is, find/define projects to be worked on and probably also find
potential developers for them.

Cheers,
Andreas
>
> Greetings
> - Till
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> On 26.05.21 18:32, Gerard Arthus wrote:
>> We can roll illumos into the foundation; we can keep the books
>> ourselves,
>> just have to pay a cpa to sign off on it if that is desired. I would
>> do the
>> tax preparation myself unless a large amount of money was involved. I
>> would
>> only do this if the finances were completely transparent and
>> everything was
>> posted on the Internet. The main point here should be to use donations
>> strictly for development and not sucking administrative cost which is
>> quite
>> common in the nonprofit world.
>>
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>> On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 5:21 PM Marc Lobelle <marc.lobelle at uclouvain.be>
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>>> Yes, I too think it is a good idea and worth a try.
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>>> On 26/05/2021 20:40, Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss
>>> wrote:
>>>>> We can get this going with at least 3-4 individuals; if there is
>>> interest I
>>>>> can start putting something together.
>>>> This is definitely a great idea.
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