[OpenIndiana-discuss] wiki.openindiana.org needs to be re/started and fixed

Nikola M. minikola at gmail.com
Sat Oct 2 09:30:44 UTC 2021


On 10/1/21 2:16 PM, Austin Kim wrote:
> The core OI developer and documentation teams are probably already stretched pretty thin as it is maintaining the “official” project documentation; perhaps some highly motivated individual out there like yourself could spin up a server (outside the openindiana.org domain) to set up an external OI user wiki to achieve the goals you mentioned?  That would take some of the time burden off the already small oi-dev team from also having to wear additional hats as wiki administrators and having to continuously keep info on the wiki in sync with the project’s reference documentation

Thank you Austin for the proposal, it is really a great one and I think 
feasible.
And as you can see, I am responding below quotes on mailing list. :)

It is interesting to see if any project internal services should be 
hosted externally,
but I agree that hosting service itself could be external for at least 
temporary time, providing domain name and wiki address are the same as 
before, to maintain links etc.

Also about keeping in sync, for the long time it were the other way 
around, Wiki can hold temporary articles, wider subjects and topics, be 
easy editing place, where some final versions can be put on web page of 
the project after being put in the good shape. Wiki have all the 
benefits for easy editing, while looking fine, unlike git procedures.

I am inclined to accept proposal and spend some time setting it up so it 
is secure and maintained, surely if previous state is intact with 
content , history and settings, to start Confluence migration.

Anyone with access to raw wiki files and settings, feel free to contact 
me on this matter,
for the pace can be picked up ;)

>
>> On Oct 1, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Nikola M. <minikola at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 10/1/21 1:42 PM, Andreas Wacknitz wrote:
>>> Am 10/1/21 um 1:27 PM schrieb Nikola M.:
>>>> Wiki.openindina.org is down and needs to be restarted or checks for
>>>> functionality what actually induces and causes it not to be available
>>>> occasionally.
>>>>
>>> The wiki has been shut down for security reasons. Most of its contents
>>> has already been merged into the docs. Some pages have been exported and
>>> are available for the documentation team.
>> I think most of Wiki it is not moved anywhere but by turning off wiki is just made unavailable.
>>
>> Security reasons are not quite valid reason, because new instance of Wiki can be started ,license is provided as before and also it were already updated before with version of Wiki.
>>
>> Important functionality of the Wiki, being able to freely create and enhance wiki pages is unavailable and is very valuable. (As Wikipedia as an example of freely editable content proves for decades).
>>
>> Process that requires strict subjection to other members approvals to edit wiki-like content hinders user freedom and creativity, like proposed docs pages with github , being external service, and not including all the content available before but just a small subset.
>>
>> Deciding on private mailing list, hidden from the wider audience is the reflection of closed and exclusive projects and subjecting changes and hindering wiki functionality is in line with the censorship.
>>
>> I am of the opinion that no great and explosive progress and widening the user base is possible on tightly restricted and secretly controlled processes that hinder creativity.
>>
>> Free users and contributors should not be subjected to article approvals by few and affected by secret mailing lists not available to the public, as OI is doing, that is not the signature of community and free software projects in general.
>>
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