[OpenIndiana-discuss] gfxdrm/OpenGL error with latest update

Sun Aug 4 16:45:10 UTC 2024

That is true, the gfx stack on OI has been stuck for years and what is even worse, nowadays we have powerful mobile devices that could provide a very nice user experience. But as we know as well the nasty and really difficult bug that prevents leveraging the NVIDIA gfx is something that requires some really good kernel expert (just to get into). And we just do not have the people to do that. They are stuck with other topics. 

Btw, you mention postings in the PR‘s. Why not doing it like the Mesa mailing list where a broader range of people would get informed? And we do not have an unstable but just encumbered branch which is not being used for it but vlc, fs-uae etc. 

It is not about willing to help but the lack of expertise that at least applies to me.  I know the BSD community is by far larger than the OI one and they solved a lot of the things OI has (if it survives as a desktop) to tackle. Surely illumos-gate (and its forks have a commercial motivitation) so I not concerned about the desktop.  

And as old as Solaris 11.4.42 CBE is, I prefer more and more its core (which can be extended via OSS) and run other OSes in the Virtualboxes of Solaris. 

Cheers

Iggi

> Am 04.08.2024 um 18:12 schrieb Andreas Wacknitz via openindiana-discuss <openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org>:
> 
> Am 04.08.24 um 17:55 schrieb Aurélien Larcher:
>> That's why I had not updated the stack, there were some notes in the
>> tickets and some discussions with Klaus and Alan back then.
>> There were a few patches parked in the gfx-drm branches.
> I merged the PR willingly and urged Till to produce it.
> The alternative is that OI would have been stuck with the outdated
> version probably forever.
> Now we have a newer package that has some defects but some people
> working on it.
> Obviously some suffer from its state but I ask them to be more actively
> help us.
> 
> In my eyes this is better than to stay longer with an outdated version
> that only works with old Intel chips.
> If we cannot activate more people to help OI will be dead sooner or later.
> Now people tell us to test more thoroughly but in the past I had PR's
> with remarks asking people to test it
> without any responses for weeks if not months. So that way didn't work
> well either.
> 
> Andreas
>> 
>> Le vendredi 2 août 2024, Till Wegmueller <toasterson at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>> Hello All
>>> 
>>> This is a known issue since the last Mesa update and seems to come from
>> the changes Solaris did to it's platform Support by disabling Intel
>> completely Upstream for Solaris and hardlinking the driver to Swrast. So
>> yes We have effectively disabled intel acceleration due to the Mesa build
>> system. It seems swrast is not up to the task though to handle modern GUI
>> applications so I will have to bite the bullet and actually port that part
>> of mesa back. This will take some time as the intel driver userland parts
>> currently can't compile due to some C functions I will need to port. For
>> some reason It did not install properly on my machine and I got a working
>> OpenGL setup when I tested. I'll look into this in detail once I am back
>> from Holidays. I think we will need to do the same thing we did with golang
>> and split the OS detection so we can provide different configurations on
>> illumos than Solaris.
>>> -Till
>>> 
>>> On 31/07/2024 18.19, scavenger via openindiana-discuss wrote:
>>>> Yes, I found all graphical applications to be sluggish. Firefox is the
>> worse.
>>>> 
>>>> Jul 31, 2024, 12:27 by Stephan.Althaus at Duedinghausen.eu:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 7/31/24 01:57, scavenger via openindiana-discuss wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Originally posted by another people here:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>> https://illumos.topicbox.com/groups/discuss/T6362d704c0be376b/gfxdrm-opengl-error-with-latest-update
>>>>>> 
>> https://illumos.topicbox.com/groups/discuss/T024578a526b45d4d/aw-discuss-re-gfxdrm-opengl-error-with-latest-update
>>>>>> I joined the discussion and posted further information. We are both
>> affected by this bug.
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>>>>> Hello!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thats not good. Do you feel slow handling in desktop apps (aside from
>> games etc) ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On my system the error doesn't show up, i am using nvidia:
>>>>> 
>>>>> $ glxinfo -B
>>>>> ...
>>>>> OpenGL version string: 4.5.0 NVIDIA 535.183.01
>>>>> ...
>>>>> 
>>>>> (as my builtin intel chipset was/is not supported)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Stephan
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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