[OpenIndiana-discuss] [oi-dev] [discuss] zpool create on specified GPT partition

[Atiq Rahman]

> I don't know what you mean by that.
I am referring to https://web.whatsapp.com/

> I already tried pop-os
Linux has come a long way! pop_os is pretty good for all the purposes OI
can't fulfill yet! System76 is very friendly to open systems and
source-code.

> macos is my first
Hope, you're aware how evil Apple is on the open-source side!

On Sat, Aug 16, 2025 at 10:19 PM Andreas Wacknitz <A.Wacknitz at gmx.de> wrote:

> Am 17.08.25 um 01:12 schrieb Atiq Rahman:
>
> Hello Andreas,
> > too complex (eg. signal, visual studio code)
> both of these are electron based apps. We don't have an electron js
> package on OI ?
>
> Electron is based on nodejs and chromium. We don't have chromium yet and
> thus no electron.
> We have only a small number of maintainers. Some people don't participate
> regularly but only add one or more packages they want to have. That's
> sometimes a problem because usually they need further maitainership because
> of environment changes (eg. libraries they use got updated).
>
>
> > or closed source (eg. whatsapp)
> Does the web app linking work? On desktop I have always used that, way
> more stable and less cranky than a native whatsapp desktop app.
>
>
> I don't know what you mean by that.
>
> > while macos is my first
>
> Try a fantastic open-source OS like pop_os instead. Many folks are using
> that one exactly for all those purposes. If you're using AI tools for
> photos you probably don't need much fancy desktop photo editing apps
> anymore.
>
>
> I already tried pop-os but wasn't satisfied. I don't use the photo editing
> apps for their AI tools only. I prefer to have full control and use AI
> where it seems appropriate for me. Plus I need stability which only the mac
> provides. When joining a video conference everything should work and to my
> experience that's not the case with any Linux distribution I tried.
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 16, 2025 at 3:09 AM Andreas Wacknitz via oi-dev <
> oi-dev at openindiana.org> wrote:
>
>> Am 16.08.25 um 11:21 schrieb Atiq Rahman:
>>
>> Hello Stephan,
>> > now i just swap the boot discs. Its far easier.... additional boot disc
>> (128-512 gb?)
>>
>>
>> Are you using them on a desktop PC or on a server setup? For what
>> purposes do you use OI?
>>
>> I am not Stephan but will nevertheless try to explain my setup.
>> I see OpenIndiana as a workstation platform that can also be used as a
>> server platform.
>> (OmniOS is in my eyes the exact opposite: it's a server platform that can
>> also be used as a workstation one.)
>> Of course many things are still missing in OI due to lack of resources,
>> some of them most probably will never appear on it because they are
>> either far too complex (eg. signal, visual studio code) or closed source
>> (eg. whatsapp).
>>
>> I use OI as my secondary operating system while macos is my first. This
>> is due to the fact that I want or need to use some software that is not
>> available on OI (eg. sophisticated photo editing, tax declaration, video
>> conferecing, ...). Of course I use OI on my own home server, too.
>>
>> I have started to use mixed OS installations on single disks in the far
>> past and stopped that when disks became affordable. The following time I
>> have been using the multiple disk approach that Stephan mentioned. Partly I
>> am still using that but I also have some old workstations (eg. Fujitsu
>> W530) which are really cheap nowadays.
>> This is my preferred approach today because I can install any OS I want
>> to experiment with on them without hesitation.
>> Usually all of them run OI, though. That's because I need test platforms
>> for fundamental changes which have many implications on other packages. But
>> I only need this because I am one of the OI maintainers.
>>
>> I already tried to explain in a previous reply why OI is my secondary OS.
>> Everything else I tried (and I tried a lot) has drawbacks that make me
>> prefer OI over them. One important reason is that as a maintainer I can
>> change/influence what and how OI provides software easily. It is quite easy
>> to become an OI maintainer (I know this for sure as I am in a position to
>> add maintainers); I think it's almost as easy as becoming a maintainer of
>> your own operating system.
>>
>> Furthermore, OI as a successor of OpenSolaris, has some mostly hidden
>> features that can only be found by intensive use of OI. The typical distro
>> hopper who always seeks for a better environment spending his/her time
>> installing/collecting operating systems (or simply Linux distributions)
>> won't be able to find because a couple of minutes is not enough to find and
>> understand them.
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Atiq
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 16, 2025 at 1:31 AM Stephan Althaus via oi-dev <
>> oi-dev at openindiana.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/16/25 07:50, Atiq Rahman wrote:
>>>
>>> > FreeBSD has switched around the terms “slice” and “partition”. They
>>> are using “slice" for fdisk/mbr case and “partition” for everything else.
>>> Thank you for sharing the fun fact!
>>>
>>> Hi all!
>>>
>>> Just to share my humble opinion..
>>>
>>> Partitioning is a point where i had my 'problems', too. These slices
>>> never really burnt in my mind, ('slice 2 is whole disc' - why no. 2??)
>>>
>>> Especially for new users without solarish bachground a tool that is
>>> 'like fdisk' would be handy - i really don't like format and fdisk cause i
>>> don't really know what they do :-/
>>>
>>> On OI we have "parted", "gdisk" and "cgdisk" which are sort of this, for
>>> 'modern' GPT disc labels.
>>> That's really great. With UEFI working now flawlessly i don't need
>>> anything else anymore.
>>>
>>> For me, i now use UFEI boot using whoe disc, in one case i did
>>> pre-partinioning to create a pool that is smaller than whole disc for later
>>> mirroing..,
>>>  and zfs pools with 'whole disc' devices.
>>>
>>>
>>> ~10 years ago i battled with dual boot setups, now i just swap the boot
>>> discs. Its far easier.
>>> These some € more for additional boot disc (128-512 gb?) really free
>>> spare time to create something more productive.
>>>
>>>
>>> Just my 2 cents,
>>>
>>> Stephan
>>>
>>