[oi-dev] Orange Indiana?

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I use pkgsrc on SmartOS.  I think it also works on OI, so I have no use really for IPS.  Plus there is OpenCSW.


From: Garrett D'Amore <garrett.damore at dey-sys.com>
To: OpenIndiana Developer mailing list <oi-dev at openindiana.org> 
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [oi-dev] Orange Indiana?





On May 10, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Martin Bochnig <martin at martux.org> wrote:

The question remains, if it really needs to be IPS based.
>Or if it can be SVR4 and CSW style pkgutil.net.
>If you read Garrett's mails he also asked this question from time to time, just the day before yesterday again.
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*illumos* uses IPS.  That's not likely to change anytime soon, if only because the pain of changing packaging systems is too high a cost to bear.

That said, its *easy* to make systems that take IPS metadata, and build binary packages in various other formats.  Its been done many times -- IPS to tar, IPS to SVR4, and IPS to .deb. I've even written an image builder that parses IPS using shell scripts.  Easy peasey.

So a distro can choose whatever format they like.  I recommend (highly) continuing to use IPS metadata as the source form, if only because it is the only packaging format that actually aims to completely describe the resultant end-system in parseable metadata rather than relying on scripting languages to help out.  (SMF boot helpers notwithstanding….)  This would mean that others could use the source formats to deliver whatever binaries they like.



>But rather than just getting lost in endless discussions, I rather continue with the long promised (delayed) x64 version ...
>Then you can better "feel" if it would be acceptebable to you (SPARC users can already test, but as far as I understand it, few of you still have a SPARC).
>
Actually I suspect lots of us still have SPARC kit in garages, closets, etc.  Just most of us long since turned them off due to poor tradeoffs.  (High noise, high heat, power consumption.  Low performance -- at least the sparc kit that most of us have laying around.)



>The src and pkgdefs are here and I'm willing to release everything.
>Doing it properly by committing change after change into hg can take decades.
>So either I just create diffs or upload tar's or create a history-less hg or what you want.
>
Nice work Martin. :-)  I like your style (delivering the work rather than discussion about the work. :-)

- Garrett



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