[oi-dev] [discuss] Re: oi_151a9 roadmap & planning

[Sriram Narayanan]

Belenix development is underway - it's just not on public servers yet.

-- Ram


On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 9:02 AM, David H <davidhalko at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Seth,
>
> I think that Joerg is quite right, we need to place a bit of
> organization around it and the work must be done by an external
> coordinator, not a developer tied to a single distribution. Some key
> contributing distributions may include:
> - Belenix, mentioned on the list that they were resuming development
> cycles in 2013. I have not seen much activity since May 2013.
> Sometimes, affiliated members appear on the Illumos/OpenIndiana lists.
> - Tribblix has been active on the list, re-adding some features such
> as Sparse Zones. (We use this feature aggressively under Solaris 10
> and have been waiting for it to re-appear under OpenSolaris.)
> - DilOS has been active on the list, refreshing early features from
> OpenSolaris such as Xen. It appears they were open to host OpenSXCE.
> - OpenSXCE had done some great work, refreshing capabilities from
> OpenSolaris, such as SPARC. (Looks pretty good, we have been testing.)
>
> I made some effort to pull together distros for better cooperation.
> Some of my thoughts were included in the following presentation.
> http://svr4.blogspot.com/
>
> There are hidden pages behind this lonely looking svr4 blog. It was
> prepped for a release, but enough progress to make Illumos more ISV,
> Carrier, and Managed Service Provider friendly did not happen. The
> window of opportunity for some members in the community to earn a
> living on 3 new verticals and diversify from cloud and storage silo
> had closed... and so did the time I had to invest in the community.
>
> I am interested in collaboration, but my time is more limited, until
> we can make some serious progress in diversifying, so this product can
> become more appealing to new market verticals. With 3 new market
> verticals, each earning about $333K/year, new community members could
> probably become compensated contributors, without internally competing
> against other existing founding contributors, and the overall pie
> could grow.
>
> There are probably a 4th and 5th market vertical that can be
> approached, with Oracle abandoning other markets, recently. This could
> bring the cooperative effort down to multiple revenue streams of
> $250K/year or even $200K/year to be distributed among community
> members.
>
> If the various non-commercial distro's could come together with a
> little organization and a single (functioning) network packaging
> forum, this could be beneficial for a bunch of community members...
> not to mention, that I might not have to migrate a bunch of my systems
> to Linux or Windows, but that number shrinks daily. :-(
>
> Thanks, David Halko
> http://netmgt.blogspot.com/
>
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Apostolos Syropoulos
> <asyropoulos at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I am with you when you say that people should collaborate. Although,
> >
> >
> >>
> >>-       IPS must not be the only packaging
> >>
> >
> > is quite reasonable. I don't undestand why
> >
> >
> >>-       /usr/gnu must not be the default first entry in PATH
> >>
> >>-       /sbin/sh may be a link to the Bourne Shell
> >>
> >
> > Bash is great and fortunately or unfortunately most applications
> > expect bash and not Bourne shell.  Also, I have compiled a number of
> >
> > important tools and all expect the GNU ls, GNU ld, etc. For starters
> > OpenOffice/LibreOffice expect GNU tools. In addition, since it is
> >
> > not trivial to maintain 'ld' and 'as' why not adopting the GNU
> > equivalents and forget about the Solaris things. And of course,
> > sooner or later people should choose to use either GCC or LLVM
> >
> > as the official compiler. Sun Studio is closed source and not
> >
> > actively maintained.
> >
> > A.S.
> >
> >
> > ----------------------
> > Apostolos Syropoulos
> > Xanthi, Greece
> >
> >
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