[OpenIndiana-discuss] I figured this deserved a separate thread

Nathan Evans ndickinson.evans at gmail.com
Thu Nov 4 14:25:43 UTC 2010

Thanks for the clarification.
I am very new to both projects.
A desktop/laptop version of OpenIndiana would a good place to start
esspecially for college and university students.
Perhaps it should target network and development this would expose us to new
upcoming generation of UNIX users.

There are tonnes of options. I am no authority on in the OpenIndiana project
and these thoughts are my own.

Just trying to help the fight to keep this technology from getting

On 4 November 2010 10:11, Jonathan Adams <t12nslookup at gmail.com> wrote:

> not that my $0.02 is worth much, but Illumos and OpenIndiana, although
> connected are separate entities.
> If you compare this to Linux, Illumos is the kernel and OpenIndiana is
> a distribution.
> Additionally, OpenIndiana was set up to be a server distribution with
> emphasis on apps needed to get the server running ... that is why it
> was set up.
> We'd need to look into creating a Desktop/Laptop Solaris Distro to
> have all the usability tweaks and wifi/bluetooth changes where they
> belong.  At that point only will it really be worthwhile having this
> conversation.
> There are other Distributions available, but I don't like Belenix,
> because I like Solaris to be Solaris (and also a previous version
> fried my speakers during install), and most of the others don't have
> the features I need.
> Having said all that though ...
> If we were planning on having a stable, a development and a bleeding
> edge then that would be suitable in both Illumos _and_ Openindiana,
> but not one or the other.
> For the Kernel (Illumos) I would suggest that the current build might
> be considered development, the most recent previous development build
> be considered stable and the "bleeding edge" being an almost untested
> git clone and build.
> For the Distribution (OpenIndiana) I would suggest trying to follow
> the example of Ubuntu in having a regular build and maybe a LTS every
> 18 months to 2 years (in a similar way to Solaris10 update N)
> These should in general be considered stable, and try not to upgrade
> the kernel, or major versions of apps unless security holes exist.
> I would suggest trying where possible to separate usability apps from
> core apps, with core apps admin being zealous of protecting the core
> apps repository (yes I know that is annoying to most dev's who want
> their files to be core) but it guarantees a core "server" style
> installation without forcing a gui or photo managers etc.
> On top of the core apps and usability apps repositories, I would
> suggest another cutting edge repository with the latest versions of
> all apps (Mozilla/Adobe this means you) and worry less about trying to
> remain stable and known.
> But this is not really anything to do with me.
> Jon
> On 4 November 2010 12:14, Nathan Evans <ndickinson.evans at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Who cares who can sue who,
> > Well, the problem is here how do we market OpenIndiana and all this open
> > source software effectively, how do we grow the community in a positive
> > meaningful way. How to we make OpenIndiana & Illumos viable alternatives
> and
> > brands that people can trust.
> >
> > The 33 people who left OpenOffice is a step toward disaster if we don't
> > build these brands what we'll have is another OpenVMS....
> >
> > We need to find a distribution model that works, and a software stack
> that
> > people can trust. The fact that we already have an AMAZING platform is a
> > better starting point then most have. We have what was once dubbed 'The
> most
> > advanced operating system in the world' we want to keep it that way.
> >
> > In my very humble opinion OpenIndiana should be used as our 'cutting/
> > bleeding edge' and Illumous as our stable production. When they
> eventually
> > both become that way. Similar to the old SXDE/Solaris model except
> > unrestricted. People dislike change, so lets follow a formula they are
> > currently familiar with.
> >
> > Once we have something going I'm sure a big company who will remain
> nameless
> > at this point will look at our work and sponsor our little community.
> >
> > Mind you this is just an idea I had, let me know what you think, I enjoy
> the
> > feed back.
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