[OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express available

[Alex Viskovatoff]

I think it's become clear by now that Oracle Solaris is just an
irrelevant exoticism to mainstream users as opposed to multibillion
dollar enterprises.

I updated to Solaris Express 11 because I wanted to check it out and
have an alternate boot environment for emergency purposes, but I am now
back to OpenIndiana.  I didn't notice any significant improvements in
snv_151a over oi_147.

Oracle Solaris is pretty much a dead fish as far as the wider computing
community goes.  What we need to concentrate on is finding new
contributors to the OpenIndiana project.

On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 19:55 +0200, Gabriel de la Cruz wrote:
> Well they corrected the 30 days trial "smart move" with a not so different
> approach.
> 
> I could make a long list of possible users others than businesses and
> coders, but Oracle should work it out on their own.
> I don't think their restrictions makes a real benefit for them, at all. With
> their hight pricing and lack of alternatives they are painting a line on the
> floor dividing who are their customers and who are not... they create the
> "you are not wanted here" feeling, and this is never a good thing for
> business.
> 
> Just for curiosity, how does Oracle check what kind of use you make of an
> operating system? In order to evaluate third party communications or private
> information this information should be already public (what means, the
> information should not be private at all). Otherwise they don't have the
> right to read a single packet of data. I dont think there is a way to
> consider any data hosted in an OS as a publicly shared source of
> information... and no communication behind a password is public. Testing and
> demonstration are not required to be public actions either.. as they could
> be handling very sensitive information. How are they tracking the computer's
> activity?. Anyway, whatever they are logging, in order to check someone's
> laptop they finally need a Judge.
> 
> Did you ever read the licensing guide to the Oracle database? Several pages
> of text just in order to learn how to license your database... I think it is
> the weirdest paper I ever seen in my entire life (my favorite part is the
> example about the lifts). I think someone could make an Antropological study
> based on that paper. It reminds me very much of the studies Spanish church
> was conducting to their priests during 16th century in order to prove if
> they were truly "old catholics" or something else. Oracle's way of
> evaluating if you fit in the description of a "named user plus" is truly
> deep.
> 
> I think they will need to write at least 15 pages just in order to describe
> what "testing" really means. First they have to drop the word it self and
> call you "tester plus", maybe then, some boundaries could be defined ;-P