[OpenIndiana-discuss] [illumos-Discuss] branding for illumos/openindiana

[Richard L. Hamilton]

Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it.

Those young startups and newbie engineers would have to
season for a few years to get my respect anyway.  About the time
they stop thinking they're l337 doodz or some such nonsense, they
might _appreciate_ that function > fashion, and not regard their
betters as "anathema".

Unless one can come up with something extraordinarily memorable
and informative, yet short, just stick with a three syllable upper
limit, and non-Welsh spelling. :-)  CoolIX, CuteOS, whatever...

On Jun 21, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Blake wrote:

> I agree that Sun's engineering legacy is impressive.
> 
> Unfortunately, the words 'Sun' and 'Solaris' are anathema to most young
> startups and newbie engineers.  Rather than forcing a history lesson on
> them, I feel we should look forward when evangelizing the platform.
> 
> Blake
> 
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Jake Young <jak3kaj at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Ken Gunderson <kgunders at teamcool.net
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 21:11 -0400, Jake wrote:
>>>> I totally agree. OpenIndiana describes the distro quite well, since it
>> is
>>> the opensource bits of the Solaris Indiana release; but the reference is
>>> totally lost to anyone not familiar with what OpenSolaris was.
>>>> 
>>>> I think a Sun reference would be fitting.
>>> 
>>> Why?  The Sun has set some time ago.  There's nothing to see here now.
>>> Time to move along, move along.  Perhaps you're thinking that a
>>> reference to Sun obscure enough to avoid a lawsuit would in some way be
>>> attractive to business.  I think the opposite - anyone who's been around
>>> for a while has their Oracle horror story so why would we want to
>>> associate.  And by Oracle, I'm referencing the corporate entity, not
>>> contributing individuals who happen to be employed by same.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Regards-- Ken Gunderson
>>> 
>>> One of the biggest appeals of OI/Illumos to me is that it is a
>> continuation
>> of the legacy of Sun Solaris' high standards of engineering excellence. My
>> personal view of the open sourcing of Solaris 11 is that someone in Sun
>> wanted to make sure that the OS that had so much invested in it would have
>> an opportunity to continue to flourish.  Things weren't going so well for
>> Sun back in 2005, it was pretty clear that if the Sun hardware wasn't going
>> to make enough money, the OS development would be impacted severely.  The
>> roots of Solaris go back to the beginning of
>> 
>> Not that Sun was such a great company, but there were a lot of fantastic
>> developers there.  Anyone I talked to that knew the kernel development
>> teams, said something along the lines of "they're the smartest people I
>> know".  Sun incubated that talent and tried to make its money from hardware
>> sales.
>> 
>> There are still a lot of fantastic people that stayed on when Oracle took
>> over.  What is scaring everyone is what will Oracle do with Solaris in 5
>> years, will there even be a Solaris 12?
>> 
>> Maybe someday, OI/Illumos will not be seen as the fork...
>> 
>> I think its appropriate to honor the company that brought us this great OS!
>> 
>> Jake
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