[OpenIndiana-discuss] Update info?

LinuxBSDos.com finid at linuxbsdos.com
Tue May 24 19:41:20 UTC 2011


One of the thought forms floating in the ethers is UNIX/Linux is difficult
to use. Even people who have never used it, believe it. Months ago, I went
to fix my car and decided to bring a book to kill time with while I
waited. It just happened to be a book on Linux.

A mechanic saw me reading it and said, "So you are using Linux, huh.. good
luck with that." To him, Linux is difficult to use. But he has never
touched a Linux-powered computer. Even seasoned Windows admins tend to
subscribe to this falsehood.

I struggle anytime I have to use Windows. It's not because Windows is
difficult, but because I'm not familiar with it.

My experience is once you introduce somebody to Linux, they never look
back, except when they have to use a program that cannot run on Linux. We
just need to write good graphical interfaces and introduce them to the
masses. Once they see it, most will like, and they will use it, if the
programs do not get in their way.

However, for some reason, we are finding it very difficult not to shoot
ourselves in the foot. Otherwise, how can anybody explain GNOME 3 and
Ubuntu Unity? IT's a sorry state of affairs.

I'll make a very detailed review of OI soon and share my thoughts and
suggestions here.

--
Fini Decima
http://LinuxBSDos.com




> Just a little insight on the behavior of human race that i experienced at
> home:
> I had a laptop with Windows XP Home with Office XP that crashed at one
> day.
> I had used the installer partition for something else, so I installed
> OpenSolaris instead.
>
> My family (wife and kids) cried several days that it was completely
> unusable. Accoording to them everything looked different and OpenOffice
> was
> not usable at all. They had to search too long to find the things they
> wanted.
>
> So at the end I bought a new laptop with Windows 7 and Office 2007.
>
> Now have ever looked at the differences between office XP and office 2007
> or
> between Windows Xp and Windows 7?
> They have never complained about anything! *sigh*
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blake Irvin [mailto:blake.irvin at gmail.com]
> Sent: dinsdag 24 mei 2011 18:13
> To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana
> Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Update info?
>
> As a longtime Solaris user I don't have to be convinced that it's better
> in
> many ways than Linux.  But there is a reality that I've been forced to
> embrace - developers don't care.
>
> I'm in the process right now of helping a large development team make the
> transition to a Solaris hosting solution.  I've spent hundreds of hours
> with
> my operations team customizing our environments so that they 'look and
> feel'
> like Ubuntu.
>
> Why?  Because that's what the current crop of developers know, and it's
> too
> expensive to train them otherwise.
>
> My operations team knows that Solaris is great, and we plan to use RBAC to
> give our dev users safe access to certain system features, but we don't
> ask
> the devs to relearn their userland.
>
> On of Apple's great insights, IMHO, was courting developers with a OS
> userland that *felt* like Linux.  They did this for pragmatic reasons and
> have seen an explosion of new applications. Do we see this for Solaris?
> No.
>
> I love Solaris and want to see OpenIndiana and related distros thrive, so
> I
> suggest we give everybody what they want.
>
> I propose an installer or configuration tool that let's a user choose
> either
> a 'Server' (traditional Solaris) userland or a 'Compatibility' or
> 'Developer' mode (one that defaults to Linux/GNU binaries, sudo, GCC,
> etc).
>
> We all laugh when we watch Ballmer's 'Developers! Developers! Developers!
> Developers!' video, but Sun went out of business almost and MS is still a
> giant.  Let's be willing to compromise in a smart way so that the OS we
> all
> love can reach as many users as possible.
>
>
> best,
> Blake
>
> (If anyone is interested in discussing my proposal in more depth, I'd be
> happy to start a new thread or take this offline.)
>
>
> sent from a Unix host smaller than my open hand.
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