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Gents, the subject was that a highly qualified developer for our shared love was leaving the party. 

Please stop this thread and start saying what we/you can do to get this party together again. 

Kind regards, 

The out-side

Op 8 jun. 2013 om 02:03 heeft Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> het volgende geschreven:

> On 06/07/2013 07:59 PM, Christopher Chan wrote:
>>>>>>>   But it is of paramount importance to those running desktops!
>>>>>>>   Remember that Linux became popular because it is reliable
>>>>>>>   alternative to both Windows and MacOS as a desktop system.
>>>>>> Excuse me? Linux on the desktop has been and still is a goal. Maybe with
>>>>> A goal? It is already there!
>>>> Ubuntu is a passable desktop and I use it. But it does not quite fit in an
>>>> office when compared with Windows or Mac OS X.
>>>   Sure it does.  I see it all the time.  If you disagree, cite examples.
>> 
>> Central domain management including assigning desktop profiles is not
>> available. Nothing that works on the level of Powerpoint or Keynote.
> 
>  Ahhhh.  Well you *may* have a point there; I don't work in environments
> that are that large.  But I have done large *datacenter* (not desktop)
> environments, and rdist works wonders for centralized administration in that
> environment.  Since everything is based on nice sane config files, that
> borders on the trivial.
> 
>> The first would have been possible with winbind and KDE 3.5 but that's no
>> longer available.
>> 
>>>> Nor has it made major in-roads in the home.
>>>   It has here.  You need to get out more. ;)
>> 
>> The whole of Hong Kong suffers from this.
> 
>  Time to move.
> 
>>>>>> Linux is popular because it was and is a cheap, reliable alternative to
>>>>>> super expensive Unix and Windows
>>>>> Linux is not cheap: it's free! And yes it is reliable. And that should
>>>>> be the goal of Illumos etc.
>>>>> A.S.
>>>> It is most assuredly not free. Unless you happen to have a really good Linux
>>>> jack of all trades admin and also a really good lot of users. Just because
>>>> you do not have to purchase licenses does not mean it is free.
>>>   That's a popular straw man, but it just doesn't bear out in real life.
>>> Linux boxes (or OS X for that matter) just do not require the degree of user
>>> support that Windows boxes do.  They don't require the constant reloading,
>>> reformatting, de-virusing, etc etc.  Nobody that I've moved to Linux or OS X
>>> has ever needed any support of any kind past about the second day of use.
>> 
>> Well, I was forced to learn to do Windows administration because that's
>> working env of my school.
> 
>  Wow, it's SERIOUSLY time to move.
> 
>> I have never had to do constant reloading,
>> reformatting or de-virusing. So in my case, this is a strawman. A complete
>> reinstall just takes a couple of hours too and I can mass reinstall if I have
>> to for that is what I do when I get a whole new batch of desktops.
> 
>  If you've figured out how to make Windows machines reliable, you'll have
> been the first, and I suspect Microsoft will hire you immediately.  THEN you
> could get out of Hong Kong! ;)
> 
>                 -Dave
> 
> -- 
> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
> New Kensington, PA
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