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[Christopher Chan]

Kinda hard when I myself didn't exactly get a great experience on that score. I've helped out with getting the samba package updated from that horrible 3.5.7/8 release to newer ones both with providing specs and running the builds myself being my own guinea pig. The result? You still have 3.5.8 in oi151a7. Okay this is OI.

Just how are we to help out with issues within illumos itself? I've had Bayard or Gordon look at an issue where kernel cifs was only working with \\ipaddr but not with \\shortname but due to my being the only reported case and the problem being difficult it got put aside as not worth it. I still the snoops for anyone who wants to have a crack at it...

I cannot afford to feed Martin. Nor do I have sparc boxes and I run OI. Just what do you propose that any of us can do? I am sorry if I have no solution to offer but short of a donation now and then for something I do not use, there is not much else and even that won't keep Martin here.

On 8 Jun, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Roel_D <openindiana at out-side.nl> wrote:

> Gents, the subject was that a highly qualified developer for our shared love was leaving the party. 
> 
> Please stop this thread and start saying what we/you can do to get this party together again. 
> 
> Kind regards, 
> 
> The out-side
> 
> Op 8 jun. 2013 om 02:03 heeft Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
>> On 06/07/2013 07:59 PM, Christopher Chan wrote:
>>>>>>>>  But it is of paramount importance to those running desktops!
>>>>>>>>  Remember that Linux became popular because it is reliable
>>>>>>>>  alternative to both Windows and MacOS as a desktop system.
>>>>>>> Excuse me? Linux on the desktop has been and still is a goal. Maybe with
>>>>>> A goal? It is already there!
>>>>> Ubuntu is a passable desktop and I use it. But it does not quite fit in an
>>>>> office when compared with Windows or Mac OS X.
>>>>  Sure it does.  I see it all the time.  If you disagree, cite examples.
>>> 
>>> Central domain management including assigning desktop profiles is not
>>> available. Nothing that works on the level of Powerpoint or Keynote.
>> 
>> Ahhhh.  Well you *may* have a point there; I don't work in environments
>> that are that large.  But I have done large *datacenter* (not desktop)
>> environments, and rdist works wonders for centralized administration in that
>> environment.  Since everything is based on nice sane config files, that
>> borders on the trivial.
>> 
>>> The first would have been possible with winbind and KDE 3.5 but that's no
>>> longer available.
>>> 
>>>>> Nor has it made major in-roads in the home.
>>>>  It has here.  You need to get out more. ;)
>>> 
>>> The whole of Hong Kong suffers from this.
>> 
>> Time to move.
>> 
>>>>>>> Linux is popular because it was and is a cheap, reliable alternative to
>>>>>>> super expensive Unix and Windows
>>>>>> Linux is not cheap: it's free! And yes it is reliable. And that should
>>>>>> be the goal of Illumos etc.
>>>>>> A.S.
>>>>> It is most assuredly not free. Unless you happen to have a really good Linux
>>>>> jack of all trades admin and also a really good lot of users. Just because
>>>>> you do not have to purchase licenses does not mean it is free.
>>>>  That's a popular straw man, but it just doesn't bear out in real life.
>>>> Linux boxes (or OS X for that matter) just do not require the degree of user
>>>> support that Windows boxes do.  They don't require the constant reloading,
>>>> reformatting, de-virusing, etc etc.  Nobody that I've moved to Linux or OS X
>>>> has ever needed any support of any kind past about the second day of use.
>>> 
>>> Well, I was forced to learn to do Windows administration because that's
>>> working env of my school.
>> 
>> Wow, it's SERIOUSLY time to move.
>> 
>>> I have never had to do constant reloading,
>>> reformatting or de-virusing. So in my case, this is a strawman. A complete
>>> reinstall just takes a couple of hours too and I can mass reinstall if I have
>>> to for that is what I do when I get a whole new batch of desktops.
>> 
>> If you've figured out how to make Windows machines reliable, you'll have
>> been the first, and I suspect Microsoft will hire you immediately.  THEN you
>> could get out of Hong Kong! ;)
>> 
>>                -Dave
>> 
>> -- 
>> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
>> New Kensington, PA
>> 
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