[OpenIndiana-discuss] Hipster distro contents confusion

Thu Sep 29 11:10:40 UTC 2016

I could try, but  I'm currently heavily engaged in live sound recording,
which is heavy work at the best of times.

Once I get a hipster iso installed I could possibly write about whatever I
learned from that, since that would be win-win.
And any other similar experience.

Beyond that kind of thing, whatever I were to do would always run the risk
of being delayed, basically forever.

torsdag 29 september 2016 skrev Adam Števko <adam.stevko at gmail.com>:

> Hi,
>
> are you interested in contributing in any way (testing, writing docs, code
> review, q&a..)?
>
> Cheers,
> Adam
>
> > On 29 Sep 2016, at 10:56, Hans J Albertsson <hans.j.albertsson at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > Sunrays is the only inescapable use case, but I definitely prefer oi to
> any
> > of my other available choices for anything light enough to be handled in
> > oi.
> >
> > Hans J. Albertsson
> > From my Nexus 5
> >
> > Den 29 sep. 2016 09:17 skrev "Adam Števko" <adam.stevko at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I wouldn't consider OpenIndiana beta or alpha. There are people
> outvthere
> >> using it for serious stuff. Back in the days, it had a lot of users on
> >> servers, esp. storages and servers. As things went, some people
> migrated to
> >> OmniOS/SmartOS or even Linux with ZoL or FreeBSD.
> >>
> >> illumos has very nice technologies and the integration between them is
> >> great experience, but not many people sre interested in. People are
> happy
> >> with "good enough" as Linux (that´s the reality). Also, certain areas of
> >> the system hasn't seen innovations since 2010.
> >>
> >> Rolling release model is great for developers / experienced users who
> are
> >> not afraid of dealing with problems (the model works basically the same
> ad
> >> on Archlinux).
> >>
> >> Are sunrays your only usecase for OI?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Adam
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 29 Sep 2016, at 08:39, Hans J Albertsson <
> hans.j.albertsson at gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Please NO!
> >>> Don't think I'm confused! I just want to know a couple more details
> about
> >>> how to use the isos!
> >>>
> >>> The hipster rolling release seems a really great idea, and OpenIndiana
> >> was
> >>> always a beta or even alpha!
> >>>
> >>> Hans J. Albertsson
> >>> From my Nexus 5
> >>>
> >>> Den 28 sep. 2016 18:00 skrev "Private openbabel" <openbabel at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>:
> >>>
> >>>> I have suspected sometime that a rolling release would confuse
> potential
> >>>> users. Perhaps we should consider a named beta release soon under the
> >>>> appropriate celestrial name?
> >>>>
> >>>> Robert
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 27/09/2016 20:05, Hans J Albertsson wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ok, so I install the iso, check what is missing and get the rest as
> you
> >>>>> show.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This machine is just a tryout for me. Wanna see if I can get SunRays,
> >> with
> >>>>> Firefox, thunderbird and libreoffice going and then a serviio dlna
> >> server
> >>>>> using ffmpeg for transcoding.
> >>>>> Most other server bits here are on FreeNAS boxes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm not seriously expecting hipster to be super stable, but I can't
> >>>>> imagine
> >>>>> you folks putting all this effort in unless your experience
> >> occasionally
> >>>>> includes reasonable usefulness.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hans J. Albertsson
> >>>>> From my Nexus 5
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Den 27 sep. 2016 7:40 em skrev "cpforum" <cpforum at orange.fr
> <javascript:;>>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Message du 27/09/16 09:02
> >>>>>>> De : "Hans J. Albertsson"
> >>>>>>> A : openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>> Copie à :
> >>>>>>> Objet : [OpenIndiana-discuss] Hipster distro contents confusion
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm looking at Hipster 2016.04 and noticing that it supposedly
> >> includes
> >>>>>>> gnome and mate1.4, apart from firefox and ffmpeg and lots of nice
> >>>>>>> things.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> No warnings on the Release Notes page.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Then I find another download, 2016 08 16, a test iso where the
> >>>>>>> intro/invite text talks about serious problems with having both
> MATE
> >> and
> >>>>>>> Gnome....
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And I have a few other minor unclear points when trying to
> understand
> >>>>>>> the ISO snapshot vs ips server stuff.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So a few questions to clear my mind of unfounded worries:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I suppose the ISOs are "hipster in a reasonably stable state, well
> >> worth
> >>>>>>> trying in a non-critical machine, likely to work just fine,
> mostly"?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> On the desktop hipster is a "no crash stable beta". But you have to
> >> add
> >>>>>> some package to make it
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Here is a script for that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> =========
> >>>>>> #!/bin/ksh
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> #
> >>>>>> # Compléments Gnome
> >>>>>> #
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> pkg install \
> >>>>>> system/install/locale \
> >>>>>> image/gnome-backgrounds \
> >>>>>> gnome/theme/background/os-backgrounds-extra \
> >>>>>> gnome/media/sound-recorder \
> >>>>>> desktop/keepassx \
> >>>>>> image/viewer/gthumb \
> >>>>>> image/editor/inkscape \
> >>>>>> image/webcam/cheese \
> >>>>>> web/editor/bluefish \
> >>>>>> editor/diagram/dia \
> >>>>>> image/scanner/xsane \
> >>>>>> image/editor/gimp
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> #
> >>>>>> # Multimédia
> >>>>>> #
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> pkg set-publisher \
> >>>>>> -g http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-emcubered hipster-encumbered
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> pkg refresh --full
> >>>>>> pkg install \
> >>>>>> media/vlc \
> >>>>>> gstreamer/plugin/bad \
> >>>>>> gstreamer/plugin/ffmpeg \
> >>>>>> gstreamer/plugin/ugly \
> >>>>>> library/video/libdvdcss
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> #
> >>>>>> # Bureautique
> >>>>>> #
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> pkg set-publisher -g http://sfe.opencsw.org/localhostoih
> localhostoih
> >>>>>> pkg install \
> >>>>>> pkg://localhostoih/library/g++/icu \
> >>>>>> pkg://localhostoih/system/library/g++/boost \
> >>>>>> desktop/application/libreoffice4-desktop-int \
> >>>>>> desktop/application/libreoffice4
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ===========
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Are the live graphical ISOs reasonably complete, including most
> >> standard
> >>>>>>> toppings for the Hipster ice cream? Or should I expect to add
> further
> >>>>>>> packages after the ISO is installed, in order to have a nice basic
> >>>>>>> desktop or media server experience??
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Is the Gnome vs Mate issue from the 2016-08-16 test ISO a problem
> in
> >> the
> >>>>>>> 2016.04 ISO as well???
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In the future, how do I upgrade from my then current Hipster ISO
> >> distro
> >>>>>>> to the next Hipster ISO distro?
> >>>>>>> Will the ISOs contain an upgrade option?? Or is there some
> >> consolidation
> >>>>>>> package magic to use the IPS server for that??
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I intend to run Hipster in a new machine, no old data to backup.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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