[OpenIndiana-discuss] To the OmniOS, OI and SmartOS community

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Hello,

My comment was simply to frame the direction of travel in todays 
changing environment. When the question is considered everyone must have a

Common shared vision

Road map to acheive that

Focus upon where that road map is

I am very happy if this common relationship can be agreed . My point is 
that a frame of reference is very important to understand the people of 
their relationships so a common direction can be forged.

Peter


On 18/05/2017 20:55, Guenther Ernst Alka wrote:
> hello Peter
>
> Thank you for your comment.
> You have a better insight view into communities and distributions than I.
> My view is mostly a storage related user view and from that pure Illumos
> features are ok. A GUI or LX zones are really nice but not essential 
> and no one
> would hinder to add LX to OI or Mate to OmniOS.
>
> I mainly want to trust a distribution to survive and to care about bugs.
> Currently we have a OmniOS LTS and the next one is due 2019.
> Until then we need a OmniOS to maintain the current LTS.
>
> But the question on what the next OmniOS is based onto must be
> answered now, not in two years or when work is mostly done .
> The future of OmniOS as a stable free Illumos is insecure enough.
>
> best regards
>
> Gea
>
>
> Am 18.05.2017 um 20:21 schrieb Peter Tribble:
>> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Guenther Alka <gea at napp-it.org> wrote:
>>
>>> There are many users who want exact these OmniOS features not 
>>> available in
>>> OI.
>>> The discussion now is if such an effort should be based on the current
>>> OmniOS bloody
>>> or can be based on a common development effort together with the OI
>>> community.
>>>
>>> I want the discussion going into a common future as I fear that a new
>>> separate OmniOS community effort will only weaken Illumos/OI and cannot
>>> survive in the long term.  My hope is that a stronger OI/OmniOS is the
>>> outcome instead where OmniOS is a stable add-on feature for OI 
>>> snapshots.
>>>
>> I don't think that's viable, at least in the short term. OmniOS has a
>> completely different ethos to OI, and there's a reason people chose
>> one distro or the other.
>>
>> Attempting to force both requirements out of a single distro will likely
>> mean that you end up satisfying neither set of users, while making it
>> much harder for maintainers who have to support both sets of users.
>>
>> Longer term is a slightly different picture. It's unlikely that OmniOS
>> will continue to diverge from illumos, and I would like to see the
>> features backported into illumos proper. Once that's done it makes
>> more sense to think about sharing, because at least you then have
>> a common illumos codebase.
>>
>>
>>> Am 18.05.2017 um 11:24 schrieb Alexander Pyhalov:
>>>
>>>> On 05/18/17 12:15 PM, Guenther Alka wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> News about OmniOS and Discuss about free Illumos distributions and
>>>>> future OmniOS/OI options
>>>>>
>>>>> I have started a thread in a popular forum with a strong ZFS focus to
>>>>> discuss this
>>>>> also with regular users outside the maillists.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/omnios-151
>>>>> 022-long-term-stable.14367/page-2
>>>>>
>>>> Hi.
>>>> So far, as I understand, OmniOS developers choose to support existing
>>>> infrastructure and build systems and there's no development on 
>>>> merging OI
>>>> and OmniOS code base. Without OmniOS developers interested in this, 
>>>> this
>>>> talk is useless.
>>>>
>>>
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