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On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 11:34 AM Kalle Anka via openindiana-discuss <
openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org> wrote:

>  I did use Ubuntu LTS for several years, and I had problems with the LTS
> distro. People have been helping me. They say to get a stable Linux
> environment, I should only install packages from the same distro and never
> install binaries from the web. If I really want to install software not
> included in the Ubuntu LTS repo, I must compile it myself. This is the way
> to have a stability Linux without crashing. There are many warnings about
> "Frankendebian" - i.e. you start with Debian Stable which is fine. Then you
> add binaries from the web, so you have left the stable environment and now
> have an unstable Frankendebian. This is a recipe for disaster, everybody
> say. So stay on Ubuntu LTS and compile everything yourself, and then you
> have a stable Linux. If you install binaries from the web, you will get
> problems.
> To me this is strange. I can install what binaries I want to, in Windows
> 10. Games, Photoshop, etc - and Win10 does not crash or becomes unstable.
> Neither do Solaris. It seems that only Linux has this common stability
> problem, and it has even a name "frankendebian". Google that.
> Thanx for your suggestion though! :)    On Monday, December 28, 2020,
> 09:15:01 PM GMT+1, L. F. Elia via openindiana-discuss <
> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org> wrote:
>
>  AS a long time Linux user, I would say you should always use the long
> term support versions (LTS) of Ubuntu. That means 16.04/18.04/20.04.
> ----lfelia at yahoo.com, Portsmouth VA, 23701
> Solaris/LINUX/Windows administration CISSP/Security consulting
>
>     On Saturday, December 5, 2020, 01:30:04 PM EST, Kalle Anka via
> openindiana-discuss <openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org> wrote:
>
>  I am a long time Solaris user that tried out Linux for a couple of years,
> namely Ubuntu LTS. Alas, the Ubuntu updates caused numerous problems, in
> some cases causing a reinstall. At the end I switched to Ubuntu 2020.10
> hoping it would be more stable. It was not.
>
> Another problem is that OpenZFS v0.8.4 renders Solaris 11.3 disks
> unusable. Try this:
> -Create a ZFS disk in Solaris 11.3 (using zpool version 28, and zfs
> version 5)
> -Import the disk into Ubuntu 2020.10 using OpenZFS v0.8.4
> -Copy data to the zpool using Linux zfs send recv
> -Import the zpool back into Solaris 11.3 - This will fail. Solaris says
> the disk is UNAVAIL and I need to use a backup to restore data.
> So if you use OpenZFS to import a zpool, chances are you cannot import the
> disk back into Solaris.
>
> Because of all these problems I have now tried the OpenIndiana 2020.10
> LiveDVD and I liked it. The splash screen says it is OI "2020.04". It maybe
> should be changed to "2020.10"? Before I migrate off Linux to OI, I have
> some questions I hope I can get help with?
> 1) I boot Win10 which is installed using UEFI. According the OI manual, OI
> does not support UEFI.
>
> http://docs.openindiana.org/handbook/getting-started/#booting-the-hipster-installer
>
> So I should not install BIOS OI and UEFI W10 for dualbooting on the same
> disk. I learned this the hard way. I had a Win10 and Solaris 11.2 dual
> booting install, on the same disk using BIOS, i.e. MBR disk. Then an W10
> update silently changed the disk to UEFI (GPT disk), and Solaris 11.2 was
> still on MBR. So I could boot W10, but not boot Solaris. It took me a long
> time to figure out why Solaris would not boot. I had to reinstall Solaris
> using UEFI.
>
> To solve my problem of BIOS os and UEFI os, I wonder if this might work: I
> remove all disks except one, and install Win10 using UEFI. Then I remove
> all disks, and insert another disk to which I install BIOS OpenIndiana.
> Then I insert all disks, and when I boot my PC, I choose which OS to boot
> from the disk boot menu by pressing F11. Do you think this could be a way
> to have both BIOS OpenIndiana and UEFI Win10 on my PC, but on different
> disks? I have read that you should not install BIOS and UEFI oses on the
> same PC, even on the different disks - but I dont know why. I cannot find
> information on this. But if I choose the different disks to boot in the
> boot menu, this could work? Anyone know?
>
> (BTW, I have a WARNING! If you boot Win10 install usb and only look at the
> different disks in your PC, i.e. check the sizes of the disks, and then
> exit without doing anything - this will mess up your ZFS disks. W10 install
> software will mess up disks that are not NTFS. ZFS is something new, so
> Win10 install software will overwrite the ZFS disks even scanning the ZFS
> disks. If you do get your ZFS disks messed up this way, I have heard that
> you can try to import the zpool and scrub it, and it might solve this mess.
> Another way to solve this problem, is to remove all non ntfs disks from
> your system before installing Win10).
>
> 2) Does OI support Sunray? (Solaris 11.4 does not support Sunray)
>
> 3) Graphics. I have a Geforce GTX 1070 Ti. On a UEFI installed Solaris
> 11.3, it is not possible to install the latest Nvidia 1070 Ti driver
> because the driver explicitly requires a BIOS Solaris installation. To
> install GTX 1070 Ti, you must install Solaris 11.3 as BIOS, and not UEFI.
> If you have UEFI, there are no GTX 1070 Ti driver at all. You need to use
> VESA driver.
>
> The GTX 1070 Ti driver is certified for Solaris, but can the GTX 1070 Ti
> driver be installed on OI, as OI is a Solarish derivative? This is the
> latest Nvidia driver:
> https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/127153/en-us
>
> 4) In the event that OI supports UEFI, I can install both Win10 and OI on
> my system without problems. However, in that case I stuck with the VESA OI
> driver. Because Nvidia GTX 1070 Ti driver only installs on BIOS Solaris. To
> solve this problem, can I still install OI as BIOS, and Win10 as UEFI as
> outlined in point 1) above? And this would give me Nvidia driver for GTX
> 1070 Ti?
>
> 5) I hope there is a mpt sas driver, because there was one in Solaris
> 11.3. Can anyone confirm? I have this LSI2008 SAS card for my JBOD raidz3 I
> would like to use.
>
> 6) Virtualbox, does it work fine on OI? Is it problematic?
>
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