[OpenIndiana-discuss] after Installation, no X11?

[Andreas Wacknitz]

Am 25.02.21 um 19:18 schrieb Carsten Grzemba via openindiana-discuss:
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> Am 24.02.21 23:44 schrieb "Rolf M. Dietze"  <rmd at orbit.in-berlin.de>:
>>
>> Quoting Tim Mooney via openindiana-discuss <openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org>:
>>
>>> In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] after Installation, no X11?, Rolf...:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> yes, got it running. xdm login, twm as window manager. Fast and
>>>> smart:)
>>>>
>>>> As I started up with a text console only, Andreas and Carsten
>>>> on this list told me to do a pkg install mate_install and start
>>>> the SMF-service for lightdm. With a little nvidia driver update
>>>> all worked fine. Since I like fast minimalistik desktops that do
>>>> not consume the compute power for windows decorations, I did:
>>>> pkg install twm
>>>> pkg install xdm
>>>> copied th svc-lightdm method to svc-xdm, set it up for xdm, reseted
>>>> the xdm-fmri as was installed alongside by pkg install xdm, pointed
>>>> it to the freshly createt login-xdm. (guess I could have used the
>>>> default anyway, it just starts xdm so:)
>>> I'm glad you found a solution that works, but I think there might
>>> have been an easier way that didn't involve messing with SMF at all.
>>>
>>> Lightdm is capable of launching any "session" it knows about. What
>>> exactly a "session" is depends on the desktop environment, but for
>>> the "xterm" failsafe, it's just an xterm.
>>>
>>> Sessions are defined in a .desktop text file in /usr/share/xsessions/
>>> The .desktop file format is documented here:
>>>
>>> 	https://specifications.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/
>>>
>>> Using the 'mate.desktop' and 'xterm.desktop' as examples, someone
>>> that knows TWM well could probably create a twm.desktop, drop it into
>>> /usr/share/xesssions/, and then continue to use lightdm as the login
>>> (rather than XDM), but get it to launch your twm session.
>>>
>>> I know that Ubuntu and some other Linux distros that use lightdm have
>>> a twm.desktop configured for their distro. That might also serve as
>>> a useful example.
>>>
>>> Either way, if you know how to get twm to "launch" after X is already
>>> running, it's probably a lot easier to just make it a selectable choice
>> >from Lightdm than it is to create a different SMF.
>>> Hope this helps,
>> [..]
>> well yes and no. I do not really like the look and feel of lightdm as so
>> with the gdm-login, which specially denied me using cde once gnome was
>> tried out and judged to be to performanceconsuming. Same goes with the
>> unity stuff and debian as well. I normally use cde-login as I am still
>> supporting sunray at some places, I love CDE so....
>> With FreeBSD I came back to xdm as a login manager and configured it to
>> look as desired, with some scripting around one can dynamically select
>> the windows manager to start with xdm as well. With that and having an
>> identical login manager look and feel around FreeBSD-, ubuntu-, debian-
>> and now the first OI-boxes. It is simply far simpler to just change SMF
>> than to have a bunch full of differnt login managers on whatever boxes.
>> For the OI testbox that I set up, OI feels simply great, thanks for all
>> the work and time put in OI. Next step is bhyve, Stephan Althaus just
>> posted his experience with that.
>>
>> Right now I am fiddling with CDE. In fact, sunray on OI works? If, please
>> give me a pointer, I'd love to put that on an OI box. Is there a newer
>> firefox than 60.9.0? Firefox could be a show stopper for OI as a desktop
>> replacement because of the old certificates. Yes sure, I could fence a
>> more recent version of that power consuming firefox in some newer linux
>> branded zone. That goes for me, assumingly for most of the readers of that
>> list, but not for all users I have to support.
>>
> I use SunRay on OI since some years and have contribute an install guide on docs.openindiana.org.
Actually it's still only a PR:
https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-docs/pull/150
If you'll fix the existing conflict, I will integrate it.

Regards,
Andreas