[OpenIndiana-discuss] Just get Pale Moon

[Aurélien Larcher]

On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 12:12 PM Hung Nguyen Gia via openindiana-discuss <
openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org> wrote:

> I have no power to make decisions. But I will show you what I mean when I
> said SANE or INSANE.
>
> First, we have to know where we are. The glory of Solaris has faded to the
> past.
>
> Today, we are even inferior to FreeBSD! Honestly speaking, if someone
> wanted to build a server, both for normal or storage purpose, I would
> recommend them to use FreeBSD.
>
> FreeBSD got their ZFS from Illumos, right. But today, FreeBSD's ZFS is
> more easy to use and more stable than Illumos!
>
> Not to mention initiative like ZoF. You are left behind. Yes, I know you
> will going to go to OpenZFS 2.0, too.
>
> Since there is no where else you could go. You don't have the ability to
> maintain ZFS yourself.
>
> Then the only way is to rely on Linux people's work, ZoL, with a fancy
> rename to be OpenZFS 2.0, nothing other than ZoL with a bunch of #ifdef for
> other minor OSes.
>
> Yes, you are now being a minor OSes. Accept it or not, you are no longer
> upstream. Do you feel any shame when it's all reversed? From being
> upstream, now just a downstream minority only able to going thanks to the
> mercy of the Linux guys?
>
> Not to mention, if it's about a desktop system, what OI is for, OI is
> completely inferior to FreeBSD.
>
> Just download GhostBSD, compare, and see.
>
> The BSDs could reject Pale Moon, because they have PLENTY of alternatives.
> They have working Firefox, some of them even Chromium.
>
> What do you have now? Are you in a place you could do as them? No way!
>
> Do you able to show me even just a preview version of the Firefox you are
> working on?
>
> You can't, do you?
>
> It's SANE to just import Pale Moon into the encumbered repo. They are
> plenty of software they install to /opt, doesn't it? Just put Pale Moon and
> all of their sh8t shipped libraries there and no one care.
>
> It's INSANE when you don't know what you are and where you are but act as
> like you have plenty of choices when indeed you have NONE. You are not any
> less ARROGANT than the Pale Moon devs. I think it can only be MORE than
> them.
>
> Accept that you are LOSER, and do your best to get back to your place,
> it's what SANE people do.
>
> INSANE people talk very much about discipline, 'quality standard', bla
> bla... but indeed can deliver nothing! Proving wrong very easy, give me a
> preview of your Firefox! But I know, you can't.
>

Hi,
there is probably no question that illumos is a minor OS when it comes to
the size of the community; hardware support and software availability is
therefore more limited than systems backed by big companies and a few
hundred developers.

However until now this small community has always been courteous and
friendly.

Could you please make your point in a less offensive manner and possibly be
more constructive?

These mailing lists are a place for people exchanging ideas and providing
help, not for arsonists.

If you cannot cool your jets you'll be sent off the pitch for one week.

Kind regards,

Aurélien





>
>
> ---- On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 17:00:16 +0700 Volker A. Brandt <vab at bb-c.de>
> wrote ----
>
>  > > All of your so called 'quality standard' are just pure BS.
>  > >
>  > >  > Buf if you really want to act like a boss and have Pale Moon on OI
> as
>  > >  > your wish, consider DM-ing me? I think I can arrange that for you
> -- if
>  > >  > you pay me will enough, of course.
>  > >  >
>  > >
>  > > I don't want to be boss. The fact is I suffered from such people on
> my real life.
>  > >
>  > > But frankly speaking, your team needs more people like that. At least
> they are SANE.
>  >
>  > With your superior intellect, and your sharp powers of observation, in
> a
>  > matter of days, you have identified many of the problems the
> incompetent
>  > and insane OI devs have failed to fix for years.
>  >
>  > Congratulations!
>  >
>  > So which one are you going to start working on first?
>  >
>  >
>  > Regards -- Volker
>  > --
>  >
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