[OpenIndiana-discuss] Just get Pale Moon

Thu Jan 14 12:13:39 UTC 2021

On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 12:31 PM Hung Nguyen Gia <gh_origin at zohomail.com>
wrote:

> You don't have to. I'm bored talking with people doesn't hear me.
>
> And I also said everything I could say. The decision is up to you.
>
> No need to kick my ass out of this list.
>

Thank you, no problem.

I understand your frustration.
We all have to deal with difficulties and things that do not work...

I started working again on the migration to GCC 10 and to Python 3.9 and it
is a bit daunting... ;)

Cheers,

Aurélien

---- On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 18:25:29 +0700 Aurélien Larcher <
> aurelien.larcher at gmail.com> wrote ----
>
>  >
>  >
>  > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 12:12 PM Hung Nguyen Gia via
> openindiana-discuss <openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org> wrote:
>  > I have no power to make decisions. But I will show you what I mean when
> I said SANE or INSANE.
>  >
>  >  First, we have to know where we are. The glory of Solaris has faded to
> the past.
>  >
>  >  Today, we are even inferior to FreeBSD! Honestly speaking, if someone
> wanted to build a server, both for normal or storage purpose, I would
> recommend them to use FreeBSD.
>  >
>  >  FreeBSD got their ZFS from Illumos, right. But today, FreeBSD's ZFS is
> more easy to use and more stable than Illumos!
>  >
>  >  Not to mention initiative like ZoF. You are left behind. Yes, I know
> you will going to go to OpenZFS 2.0, too.
>  >
>  >  Since there is no where else you could go. You don't have the ability
> to maintain ZFS yourself.
>  >
>  >  Then the only way is to rely on Linux people's work, ZoL, with a fancy
> rename to be OpenZFS 2.0, nothing other than ZoL with a bunch of #ifdef for
> other minor OSes.
>  >
>  >  Yes, you are now being a minor OSes. Accept it or not, you are no
> longer upstream. Do you feel any shame when it's all reversed? From being
> upstream, now just a downstream minority only able to going thanks to the
> mercy of the Linux guys?
>  >
>  >  Not to mention, if it's about a desktop system, what OI is for, OI is
> completely inferior to FreeBSD.
>  >
>  >  Just download GhostBSD, compare, and see.
>  >
>  >  The BSDs could reject Pale Moon, because they have PLENTY of
> alternatives. They have working Firefox, some of them even Chromium.
>  >
>  >  What do you have now? Are you in a place you could do as them? No way!
>  >
>  >  Do you able to show me even just a preview version of the Firefox you
> are working on?
>  >
>  >  You can't, do you?
>  >
>  >  It's SANE to just import Pale Moon into the encumbered repo. They are
> plenty of software they install to /opt, doesn't it? Just put Pale Moon and
> all of their sh8t shipped libraries there and no one care.
>  >
>  >  It's INSANE when you don't know what you are and where you are but act
> as like you have plenty of choices when indeed you have NONE. You are not
> any less ARROGANT than the Pale Moon devs. I think it can only be MORE than
> them.
>  >
>  >  Accept that you are LOSER, and do your best to get back to your place,
> it's what SANE people do.
>  >
>  >  INSANE people talk very much about discipline, 'quality standard', bla
> bla... but indeed can deliver nothing! Proving wrong very easy, give me a
> preview of your Firefox! But I know, you can't.
>  >
>  > Hi,
>  > there is probably no question that illumos is a minor OS when it comes
> to the size of the community; hardware support and software availability is
> therefore more limited than systems backed by big companies and a few
> hundred developers.
>  >
>  > However until now this small community has always been courteous and
> friendly.
>  >
>  > Could you please make your point in a less offensive manner and
> possibly be more constructive?
>  >
>  > These mailing lists are a place for people exchanging ideas and
> providing help, not for arsonists.
>  >
>  > If you cannot cool your jets you'll be sent off the pitch for one week.
>  >
>  > Kind regards,
>  >
>  > Aurélien
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > ---- On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 17:00:16 +0700 Volker A. Brandt <vab at bb-c.de>
> wrote ----
>  >
>  >   > > All of your so called 'quality standard' are just pure BS.
>  >   > >
>  >   > >  > Buf if you really want to act like a boss and have Pale Moon
> on OI as
>  >   > >  > your wish, consider DM-ing me? I think I can arrange that for
> you -- if
>  >   > >  > you pay me will enough, of course.
>  >   > >  >
>  >   > >
>  >   > > I don't want to be boss. The fact is I suffered from such people
> on my real life.
>  >   > >
>  >   > > But frankly speaking, your team needs more people like that. At
> least they are SANE.
>  >   >
>  >   > With your superior intellect, and your sharp powers of observation,
> in a
>  >   > matter of days, you have identified many of the problems the
> incompetent
>  >   > and insane OI devs have failed to fix for years.
>  >   >
>  >   > Congratulations!
>  >   >
>  >   > So which one are you going to start working on first?
>  >   >
>  >   >
>  >   > Regards -- Volker
>  >   > --
>  >   >
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