[OpenIndiana-discuss] distribution constructor for making OI spins?

[Aurélien Larcher]

On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 10:19 PM Chris <oidev at bsdos.info> wrote:

> On 2021-01-20 12:47, Tim Mooney via openindiana-discuss wrote:
> > In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] distribution constructor for
> > making...:
> >
> >> On 2021-01-20 04:09, Tim Mooney via openindiana-discuss wrote:
> >>> In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] distribution constructor for
> >>> making...:
> >>>
> >>>> I would love to have XFCE.
> >>>>
> >>>> But as I know, the OI devs will not package other DEs. They stay
> royal to
> >>>> MATE.
> >>>>
> >>>> You can't found any other DE's packages on the repo.
> >>>
> >>> You might want to review the mailing list archives for this mailing
> list
> >>> to get a clearer understanding of why that is.  It's been discussed
> >>> before.
> >>>
> >>> If you or Chris or someone else builds an entire desktop environment
> >>> like Cinnamon and publishes a repo that is kept up to date, I would
> >>> definitely give it a try, at least in a VM.  If someone does this and
> >>> keeps it up to date for a long time and continues to contribute to OI,
> >>> I would probably use that as my main desktop environment.
> >>>
> >>> Just building it once, without a commitment to keeping it updated,
> isn't
> >>> good for anyone, though.
> >> TBH The only reason OI isn't my "daily driver" is the DE available. If I
> >> had XFCE (what I currently use), or better, Cinnamon. I'd have a hard
> time
> >> not using OI. Overall I like it better. But I'm (currently) pretty well
> >> committed to FreeBSD as maintainer of some 160 ports, and I create
> >> installs for all my servers && clients. I've been on BSD since Bill Joy
> >> forked 386BSD, and hacked on various NIX' before that. But if I could
> >> cobble up an OI I could justify as a "daily driver", and something I
> could
> >> recommend to my clients. I'd make the switch.
> >> Which brings me to why I initiated this thread. Since I need commitment
> >> to justfy *my* commitment. I thought I'd send out a "feeler" to see if
> >> there was any interest. Appears I'm not the only one. So I'm going to
> >> "take the plunge". I'll start gathering all the information I need to
> get
> >> all the dots in a line, so I can start production. Any pointers to help
> >> shorten the trajectory would be *greatly* appreciated. As well as
> keeping
> >> the wiki working. ;-)
> >
> > I'm indifferent to Xfce, but when you start working on Cinnamon and deps,
> > that's something that I would be happy to collaborate on and test.
> That's my *ideal* target. I really like working in Cinnamon, and want to
> transform my current workspace from XFCE to Cinnamon. So I'll definitely
> include you in the loop when I start on it. :-)
> >  oi-dev and the irc channels are your best source for help on porting,
> > and I've gotten good feedback in PRs where I've asked questions or been
> > stuck part way through updating or porting a package.
> >
> > Also, rather than the wiki, I would highly recommend
> >
> >       http://docs.openindiana.org/
> >
> > and then "HandBook->Building with oi-userland".  That's been migrated
> from
> > the old wiki page and updated and had some corrections and a few
> > clarifications added.  There may still be improvements that could be
> made,
> > so the
> > first few times through the process, please pay special attention
> > to places where that document misses information or appears incorrect.
> If
> > you mention the issues on oi-dev, I'll get PRs submitted (or you can,
> > if you fork the docs too) to try improve things.
> In all honesty; OI could *really* use some DOC love --
> consolidation/updating.

I had a devil of a time discovering where the "truth" was located. It's
> currently
> fragmented, and out-of-date -- mind you, I'm not shaking my finger at
> anyone
> here.
> Just sharing my current struggle in this regard. If it were to get
> consolidated.
>
I think many more might feel inclined to get onboard w/OI.
>

Trouble is that we called for contributions to migrate and enrich the new
documentation but it never gained momentum.
I started writing a maintainer's guide on the Wiki before the migration but
have absolutely zero time to dedicate to its migration to the new doc
system.

Alexander did move some pages to:

https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/tree/oi/hipster/doc


> I'm currently using: https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland as my
> source
> of
> truth. Having been a (ports/package) maintainer on FreeBSD for some 10yrs.
> I'm
> finding it enough to read the shell framework to get up to speed. My only
> *personal*
> nit; is that it's largely bash(1) based. Maybe it's because I'm more used
> to
> sh(1).
> But I find bash to be a bit of a pig, by comparison. But I can get used to
> it
> -- or
> just rewrite all of it in sh(1). ;-)
>
> Tim, thank you *very* much for all the pointers, and support! :-)
> We'll be talking Cinnamon, real soon now. ;-)
>
> --Chris
> >
> > Tim
>
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