[OpenIndiana-discuss] distribution constructor for making OI spins?

[Chris]

On 2021-01-20 13:45, Aurélien Larcher wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 10:39 PM Chris <oidev at bsdos.info> wrote:
> 
>> On 2021-01-20 13:03, Andreas Wacknitz wrote:
>> > Am 20.01.21 um 21:47 schrieb Tim Mooney via openindiana-discuss:
>> >> In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] distribution constructor for
>> >> making...:
>> >>
>> >>> On 2021-01-20 04:09, Tim Mooney via openindiana-discuss wrote:
>> >>>> In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] distribution constructor for
>> >>>> making...:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> I would love to have XFCE.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> But as I know, the OI devs will not package other DEs. They stay
>> >>>>> royal to MATE.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> You can't found any other DE's packages on the repo.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> You might want to review the mailing list archives for this mailing
>> >>>> list
>> >>>> to get a clearer understanding of why that is.  It's been discussed
>> >>>> before.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you or Chris or someone else builds an entire desktop environment
>> >>>> like Cinnamon and publishes a repo that is kept up to date, I would
>> >>>> definitely give it a try, at least in a VM.  If someone does this and
>> >>>> keeps it up to date for a long time and continues to contribute to OI,
>> >>>> I would probably use that as my main desktop environment.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Just building it once, without a commitment to keeping it updated,
>> >>>> isn't
>> >>>> good for anyone, though.
>> >>> TBH The only reason OI isn't my "daily driver" is the DE available. If
>> I
>> >>> had XFCE (what I currently use), or better, Cinnamon. I'd have a hard
>> >>> time
>> >>> not using OI. Overall I like it better. But I'm (currently) pretty well
>> >>> committed to FreeBSD as maintainer of some 160 ports, and I create
>> >>> installs for all my servers && clients. I've been on BSD since Bill Joy
>> >>> forked 386BSD, and hacked on various NIX' before that. But if I could
>> >>> cobble up an OI I could justify as a "daily driver", and something I
>> >>> could
>> >>> recommend to my clients. I'd make the switch.
>> >>> Which brings me to why I initiated this thread. Since I need commitment
>> >>> to justfy *my* commitment. I thought I'd send out a "feeler" to see if
>> >>> there was any interest. Appears I'm not the only one. So I'm going to
>> >>> "take the plunge". I'll start gathering all the information I need to
>> >>> get
>> >>> all the dots in a line, so I can start production. Any pointers to help
>> >>> shorten the trajectory would be *greatly* appreciated. As well as
>> >>> keeping
>> >>> the wiki working. ;-)
>> >>
>> >> I'm indifferent to Xfce, but when you start working on Cinnamon and
>> deps,
>> >> that's something that I would be happy to collaborate on and test.
>> >> oi-dev
>> >> and the irc channels are your best source for help on porting,
>> I find IRC stressful while I'm working, and somewhat hard to keep up on
>> (the threads). FreeBSD has a discord channel
>> (https://discord.com/channels/) -- IRC but also Web && app based. I find
>> that pretty darn easy to keep up with, and the (web based) UI really
>> lends itself to getting things done. Oh, and it's free. Works on yer
>> so-called smart/handheld devices too. :-)
>> 
> 
> We actually have a Discord channel for OI devs already,
Awesome. :-)
> but IRC has been
> the primary entry point for newcomers.
> 
> 
>> >> and I've
>> >> gotten good feedback in PRs where I've asked questions or been stuck
>> >> part way through updating or porting a package.
>> >>
>> >> Also, rather than the wiki, I would highly recommend
>> >>
>> >>     http://docs.openindiana.org/
>> >>
>> >> and then "HandBook->Building with oi-userland".  That's been migrated
>> >> from
>> >> the old wiki page and updated and had some corrections and a few
>> >> clarifications added.  There may still be improvements that could be
>> >> made, so the first few times through the process, please pay special
>> >> attention
>> >> to places where that document misses information or appears
>> >> incorrect.  If
>> >> you mention the issues on oi-dev, I'll get PRs submitted (or you can,
>> >> if you fork the docs too) to try improve things.
>> >>
>> >> Tim
>> > I will happily merge enhancements to oi-docs.
>> > And one more thing: We share the Sun Solaris ancestry with Oracle
>> > Solaris. Some things have diverted during the last decade but the
>> > solaris-userland
>> > repository is a first-class source of information and inspiration.
>> That's a good point, and I considered it. But I was unsure as to the
>> extent of any divergence.
>> >
>> > Andreas
>> >
--Chris

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