[OpenIndiana-discuss] distribution constructor for making OI spins?

[Aurélien Larcher]

On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 10:39 PM Chris <oidev at bsdos.info> wrote:

> On 2021-01-20 13:03, Andreas Wacknitz wrote:
> > Am 20.01.21 um 21:47 schrieb Tim Mooney via openindiana-discuss:
> >> In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] distribution constructor for
> >> making...:
> >>
> >>> On 2021-01-20 04:09, Tim Mooney via openindiana-discuss wrote:
> >>>> In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] distribution constructor for
> >>>> making...:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I would love to have XFCE.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But as I know, the OI devs will not package other DEs. They stay
> >>>>> royal to MATE.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You can't found any other DE's packages on the repo.
> >>>>
> >>>> You might want to review the mailing list archives for this mailing
> >>>> list
> >>>> to get a clearer understanding of why that is.  It's been discussed
> >>>> before.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you or Chris or someone else builds an entire desktop environment
> >>>> like Cinnamon and publishes a repo that is kept up to date, I would
> >>>> definitely give it a try, at least in a VM.  If someone does this and
> >>>> keeps it up to date for a long time and continues to contribute to OI,
> >>>> I would probably use that as my main desktop environment.
> >>>>
> >>>> Just building it once, without a commitment to keeping it updated,
> >>>> isn't
> >>>> good for anyone, though.
> >>> TBH The only reason OI isn't my "daily driver" is the DE available. If
> I
> >>> had XFCE (what I currently use), or better, Cinnamon. I'd have a hard
> >>> time
> >>> not using OI. Overall I like it better. But I'm (currently) pretty well
> >>> committed to FreeBSD as maintainer of some 160 ports, and I create
> >>> installs for all my servers && clients. I've been on BSD since Bill Joy
> >>> forked 386BSD, and hacked on various NIX' before that. But if I could
> >>> cobble up an OI I could justify as a "daily driver", and something I
> >>> could
> >>> recommend to my clients. I'd make the switch.
> >>> Which brings me to why I initiated this thread. Since I need commitment
> >>> to justfy *my* commitment. I thought I'd send out a "feeler" to see if
> >>> there was any interest. Appears I'm not the only one. So I'm going to
> >>> "take the plunge". I'll start gathering all the information I need to
> >>> get
> >>> all the dots in a line, so I can start production. Any pointers to help
> >>> shorten the trajectory would be *greatly* appreciated. As well as
> >>> keeping
> >>> the wiki working. ;-)
> >>
> >> I'm indifferent to Xfce, but when you start working on Cinnamon and
> deps,
> >> that's something that I would be happy to collaborate on and test.
> >> oi-dev
> >> and the irc channels are your best source for help on porting,
> I find IRC stressful while I'm working, and somewhat hard to keep up on
> (the threads). FreeBSD has a discord channel
> (https://discord.com/channels/) -- IRC but also Web && app based. I find
> that pretty darn easy to keep up with, and the (web based) UI really
> lends itself to getting things done. Oh, and it's free. Works on yer
> so-called smart/handheld devices too. :-)
>

We actually have a Discord channel for OI devs already, but IRC has been
the primary entry point for newcomers.


> >> and I've
> >> gotten good feedback in PRs where I've asked questions or been stuck
> >> part way through updating or porting a package.
> >>
> >> Also, rather than the wiki, I would highly recommend
> >>
> >>     http://docs.openindiana.org/
> >>
> >> and then "HandBook->Building with oi-userland".  That's been migrated
> >> from
> >> the old wiki page and updated and had some corrections and a few
> >> clarifications added.  There may still be improvements that could be
> >> made, so the first few times through the process, please pay special
> >> attention
> >> to places where that document misses information or appears
> >> incorrect.  If
> >> you mention the issues on oi-dev, I'll get PRs submitted (or you can,
> >> if you fork the docs too) to try improve things.
> >>
> >> Tim
> > I will happily merge enhancements to oi-docs.
> > And one more thing: We share the Sun Solaris ancestry with Oracle
> > Solaris. Some things have diverted during the last decade but the
> > solaris-userland
> > repository is a first-class source of information and inspiration.
> That's a good point, and I considered it. But I was unsure as to the
> extent of any divergence.
> >
> > Andreas
> >
> --Chris
>
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