[OpenIndiana-discuss] Boot hangs after configuring, devices (last notice is of pseudo devices

[Andreas Wacknitz]

Am 24.03.23 um 11:02 schrieb russell:
>> On 24. Mar 2023, at 10:50, Udo Grabowski
>> (IMK)<udo.grabowski at kit.edu>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 24/03/2023 09:43, Marc Lobelle wrote:
>>> On 3/24/23 08:16, Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss wrote:
>>>>> On 24. Mar 2023, at 07:58, Stephan
>>>>> Althaus<Stephan.Althaus at Duedinghausen.eu>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/22/23 20:56, Richard Lowe wrote:
>>>>>> The challenge of answering that is you often don't know the answer
>>>>>> until you see it
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The ::stacks command will give you asummarized view of every kernel
>>>>>> thread's stack
>>>>>> the ::cpuinfo -v command will show you what the CPUs are doing
>>>>>> now (or
>>>>>> were doing, before you got into kmdb).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both or either might have a smoking gun of some kind, but it's
>>>>>> hard to
>>>>>> predict what it might look like.
>>>>>>
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>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>
>>>>> In one of my earlier update-tests i had a problem with the first
>>>>> OI-nvidia-525 version in cooperation with Virtualbox,
>>>>> so i had the idea to test this:
>>>>>
>>>>> I uninstalled 'userland-incorporation' and 'entire' as
>>>>> prerequisite to  install nvidia version 515,
>>>>> now it boots!
>>>>>
>>>>> So, nvidia in the most recent version 525 stopped the boot
>>>>> process. (?)
>>>>>
>>>>> i checked with NVidia Solaris Driver Archive that my chipset
>>>>> (Quadro M1200) is on the supported list for this version:
>>>>> https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/199661/en-us/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How/Why should the display driver be able to interrupt the boot
>>>>> process ?
>>>>> How/Why should the display driver be able to interrupt the boot
>>>>> process without further notice?
>>>>>
>>>> That is something one can work out with debugger. But, this is
>>>> binary only driver? Built *for Oracle Solaris 11.4*? With API
>>>> interfaces changed inside Oracle Solaris? This means, the question
>>>> is not ?if? but ?when? - it is only question of time when such
>>>> drivers become unusable for us. Without gfx driver development, the
>>>> desktop variant of illumos is dead end.
>>> without desktop, it would unfortunately mean the dead of illumos. If
>>> Oracle solaris drivers become unusable shouldn't illumos move to
>>> another driver interface that is maintained ?
>> Maybe we wait until the cause for the problem is known before
>> declaring everything dead ?
>>
> It is a bit premature to declare everything dead, but, the fact is, we
> can not rely on binary only drivers forever. As soon as Oracle will
> decide to stop distributing Solaris, nvidia will have no reason to
> distribute those binary drivers. Note, we *still* do rely on few
> closed binaries to distribute illumos itself.
>
>  rgds,
>
> toomas
>
>
> There was a feature request #8069 for AMDGPU support which is the
> latest open source AMD driver for AMD graphics cards, given how AMD
> has improved their CPUs and Graphics Cards under Lisa Su, would now be
> the time to consider adding better support for AMD cards.
>
> Kind Regards
>
>
> Russell
>
>
>
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We need people to do the work. Alas we seem to lack companies interested
in desktop usage and thus there is absolutely no interest in
funding/supporting illumos driver development for graphics cards and
other desktop related areas. I myself am missing support for Blutooth LE
which is being used in newer mice and keyboards (eg. from Logitech).

Regards
Andreas