[OpenIndiana-discuss] Hipster distro contents confusion

Thu Sep 29 08:56:52 UTC 2016

Sunrays is the only inescapable use case, but I definitely prefer oi to any
of my other available choices for anything light enough to be handled in
oi.

Hans J. Albertsson
>From my Nexus 5

Den 29 sep. 2016 09:17 skrev "Adam Števko" <adam.stevko at gmail.com>:

> Hi,
>
> I wouldn't consider OpenIndiana beta or alpha. There are people outvthere
> using it for serious stuff. Back in the days, it had a lot of users on
> servers, esp. storages and servers. As things went, some people migrated to
> OmniOS/SmartOS or even Linux with ZoL or FreeBSD.
>
> illumos has very nice technologies and the integration between them is
> great experience, but not many people sre interested in. People are happy
> with "good enough" as Linux (that´s the reality). Also, certain areas of
> the system hasn't seen innovations since 2010.
>
> Rolling release model is great for developers / experienced users who are
> not afraid of dealing with problems (the model works basically the same ad
> on Archlinux).
>
> Are sunrays your only usecase for OI?
>
> Cheers,
> Adam
>
>
>
> > On 29 Sep 2016, at 08:39, Hans J Albertsson <hans.j.albertsson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Please NO!
> > Don't think I'm confused! I just want to know a couple more details about
> > how to use the isos!
> >
> > The hipster rolling release seems a really great idea, and OpenIndiana
> was
> > always a beta or even alpha!
> >
> > Hans J. Albertsson
> > From my Nexus 5
> >
> > Den 28 sep. 2016 18:00 skrev "Private openbabel" <openbabel at gmail.com>:
> >
> >> I have suspected sometime that a rolling release would confuse potential
> >> users. Perhaps we should consider a named beta release soon under the
> >> appropriate celestrial name?
> >>
> >> Robert
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 27/09/2016 20:05, Hans J Albertsson wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Ok, so I install the iso, check what is missing and get the rest as you
> >>> show.
> >>>
> >>> This machine is just a tryout for me. Wanna see if I can get SunRays,
> with
> >>> Firefox, thunderbird and libreoffice going and then a serviio dlna
> server
> >>> using ffmpeg for transcoding.
> >>> Most other server bits here are on FreeNAS boxes.
> >>>
> >>> I'm not seriously expecting hipster to be super stable, but I can't
> >>> imagine
> >>> you folks putting all this effort in unless your experience
> occasionally
> >>> includes reasonable usefulness.
> >>>
> >>> Hans J. Albertsson
> >>> From my Nexus 5
> >>>
> >>> Den 27 sep. 2016 7:40 em skrev "cpforum" <cpforum at orange.fr>:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Message du 27/09/16 09:02
> >>>>> De : "Hans J. Albertsson"
> >>>>> A : openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
> >>>>> Copie à :
> >>>>> Objet : [OpenIndiana-discuss] Hipster distro contents confusion
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm looking at Hipster 2016.04 and noticing that it supposedly
> includes
> >>>>> gnome and mate1.4, apart from firefox and ffmpeg and lots of nice
> >>>>> things.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No warnings on the Release Notes page.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Then I find another download, 2016 08 16, a test iso where the
> >>>>> intro/invite text talks about serious problems with having both MATE
> and
> >>>>> Gnome....
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And I have a few other minor unclear points when trying to understand
> >>>>> the ISO snapshot vs ips server stuff.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So a few questions to clear my mind of unfounded worries:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I suppose the ISOs are "hipster in a reasonably stable state, well
> worth
> >>>>> trying in a non-critical machine, likely to work just fine, mostly"?
> >>>>>
> >>>> On the desktop hipster is a "no crash stable beta". But you have to
> add
> >>>> some package to make it
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Here is a script for that.
> >>>>
> >>>> =========
> >>>> #!/bin/ksh
> >>>>
> >>>> #
> >>>> # Compléments Gnome
> >>>> #
> >>>>
> >>>> pkg install \
> >>>> system/install/locale \
> >>>> image/gnome-backgrounds \
> >>>> gnome/theme/background/os-backgrounds-extra \
> >>>> gnome/media/sound-recorder \
> >>>> desktop/keepassx \
> >>>> image/viewer/gthumb \
> >>>> image/editor/inkscape \
> >>>> image/webcam/cheese \
> >>>> web/editor/bluefish \
> >>>> editor/diagram/dia \
> >>>> image/scanner/xsane \
> >>>> image/editor/gimp
> >>>>
> >>>> #
> >>>> # Multimédia
> >>>> #
> >>>>
> >>>> pkg set-publisher \
> >>>> -g http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-emcubered hipster-encumbered
> >>>>
> >>>> pkg refresh --full
> >>>> pkg install \
> >>>> media/vlc \
> >>>> gstreamer/plugin/bad \
> >>>> gstreamer/plugin/ffmpeg \
> >>>> gstreamer/plugin/ugly \
> >>>> library/video/libdvdcss
> >>>>
> >>>> #
> >>>> # Bureautique
> >>>> #
> >>>>
> >>>> pkg set-publisher -g http://sfe.opencsw.org/localhostoih localhostoih
> >>>> pkg install \
> >>>> pkg://localhostoih/library/g++/icu \
> >>>> pkg://localhostoih/system/library/g++/boost \
> >>>> desktop/application/libreoffice4-desktop-int \
> >>>> desktop/application/libreoffice4
> >>>>
> >>>> ===========
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Are the live graphical ISOs reasonably complete, including most
> standard
> >>>>> toppings for the Hipster ice cream? Or should I expect to add further
> >>>>> packages after the ISO is installed, in order to have a nice basic
> >>>>> desktop or media server experience??
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is the Gnome vs Mate issue from the 2016-08-16 test ISO a problem in
> the
> >>>>> 2016.04 ISO as well???
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In the future, how do I upgrade from my then current Hipster ISO
> distro
> >>>>> to the next Hipster ISO distro?
> >>>>> Will the ISOs contain an upgrade option?? Or is there some
> consolidation
> >>>>> package magic to use the IPS server for that??
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I intend to run Hipster in a new machine, no old data to backup.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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