[OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Intro questions

[Gary Gendel]

Lonnie,

The suspension was for OmniOS support and development from OmniTI.  The project is active as a community supported product called OmniOS CE.  I've never tried to run X-windows in a zone but you can ask on the omnios mailing list:

omnios-discuss at lists.omniti.com

Gary

On 10/23/2017 01:20 PM, Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
> Thanks for the information on OmniOS, Gary.
>
> Just looked at it and it seems that operations were suspended on April 21,
> 2017.
>
> In the past, I can already use something like Hyper-V, Proxmox, and others
> to run a GUI application in a container and then remote into it with RDP
> and VNC, for example from another machine. My twist on the project is that
> I would like to use one of the IllumOS dialects such that I could have one
> of the zones/containers have an X-Server that would passthrough to the
> actual video hardware so that I could use a VNC viewer, for example, on the
> same system as the other containers that are running so that I could remote
> into them as needed all from a single system. I did not want to have one
> system for the running containers/zones and another for the remote viewer,
> if at all possible.
>
> Just some thoughts, though.
> Cheers,
> Lonnie
>
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Gary Gendel <gary at genashor.com> wrote:
>
>> Lonnie,
>>
>> One distro that may work for you is OmniOS CE: https://www.omniosce.org/
>>
>> Like SmartOS, it can run LX (Linux) zones and uses pkgsrc which provides
>> basic x-windows support from that.  (I've run apps like xterm etc. from a
>> remote desktop).  Unlike OpenIndiana, native desktop functionality is
>> limited.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> On 10/23/2017 12:35 PM, Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
>>> Thanks for responding to my inquiry about OpenIndiana.
>>>
>>> Basically, I really like the small footprint of SmartOS and its ability
>> to
>>> be a good hypervisor (Linux and Windows) but for a desktop project, I
>>> wanted to be able to have a minimal OS that basically just run the
>>> containers/zones and then have one of the containers have a X-Server such
>>> that the base OS does not have applications installed in it. Then the GUI
>>> zone could be passed through to the video driver thus all of the X-Server
>>> stuff is also in a container.
>>>
>>> This was an idea that I have been playing around with for some time as
>> was
>>> going to look into possibly using SmartOS, but it is really not set up
>> for
>>> this and which is where I started digging into Illumos and subsequently
>>> OpenIndiana to see if something like this might make a good starting
>> point
>>> for this work.
>>>
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Lonnie
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 12:00 PM, Alexander Pyhalov <alp at rsu.ru> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/23/17 06:21 PM, Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Greetings All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have recently been playing around a little with SmartOS for running
>>>>> containers and hypervizing VM's for which it seems to work pretty well,
>>>>> and
>>>>> wanted to also investigate the desktop side of things as well so I hope
>>>>> that someone on the list will answer a few rudimentary questions to
>> get me
>>>>> going with my OI explorations.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that SmartOS can be a hypervisor to run the Linux, and Windows
>> OS's
>>>>> as VM's in zones, but I was wondering if OpenIndiana was able to
>> hypervize
>>>>> these OS's as well?
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, it can. illumos-kvm is not a part of illumos-gate, but is a
>> separate
>>>> codebase, developed mainly by Joyent. We compile and deliver it, but KVM
>>>> benefits from several system features (the one which comes to my mind is
>>>> VND), which are available in SmartOS, but not in other distributions
>>>> (AFAIK). OI can run KVM guests on modern Intel hardware, but SmartOS
>> can be
>>>> more efficient, for example, in network virtualization.
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Alexander Pyhalov,
>>>> system administrator of Southern Federal University IT department
>>>>
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