[OpenIndiana-discuss] Merging OI + OmniOS? (And OpenZFS vs ZFS)

Aurélien Larcher aurelien.larcher at gmail.com
Thu Jan 7 22:15:22 UTC 2021


On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 11:04 PM Till Wegmueller <toasterson at gmail.com>
wrote:

> No. Nobody is ever too small to achieve something. You just need to be
> clever about it. We always have the assumption that building packages is
> the main burden for Systems, but that is only if you don't have the
> right automation. And that is possible. Fully automate bumping package
> versions is possible. Build systems are similar enough, aaand many
> projects now switch to meson which is specifically automate able and
> standardized. So the burden is only there if you are not innovative. And
> our size makes us the perfect group for such innovation. We have the
> need. The Debian community does not have a need for innovation in
> packaging automation they are to big. When I talk with my friend which
> is Debian packager from the very beginning, he says the same. Everybody
> is happy with the Status quo and wants no changes as they don't need
> them. Then they get stuck. We can't afford to get stuck. Thats a good
> thing.
>

+1 :)

>
> -Till
>
> On 07.01.21 18:50, Guenther Alka wrote:
> > In the end I do not think in these categories.
> >
> > A few years ago all my own servers were OpenIndiana and maybe 40% of my
> > users on Solaris. Now I am 100% on OmniOS beside a OI evaluation machine
> > (and miss OI features and use cases) and maybe 10% of my users are left
> > on Solaris with OI near to not relevant now.
> >
> > OmniOS and OI are OpenSource. Why not take over this from OmniOS to keep
> > them more in sync?
> > On Linux Debian and Ubuntu are big enough to be independent while very
> > similar. On Illumos everyone may be too small alone in the long run.
> >
> > Gea
> >
> >>
> >> What you want is to make a OmniOS extra respoitory (git) with GUi
> >> packages. That would factually mean abandoning OI and the Goal of a
> >> General Purpose OS. That would be an acquisition not a merger.
> >>
> >> -Till
> >>
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