[OpenIndiana-discuss] distribution constructor for making OI spins?

[Chris]

On 2021-01-20 13:03, Andreas Wacknitz wrote:
> Am 20.01.21 um 21:47 schrieb Tim Mooney via openindiana-discuss:
>> In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] distribution constructor for
>> making...:
>> 
>>> On 2021-01-20 04:09, Tim Mooney via openindiana-discuss wrote:
>>>> In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] distribution constructor for
>>>> making...:
>>>> 
>>>>> I would love to have XFCE.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But as I know, the OI devs will not package other DEs. They stay
>>>>> royal to MATE.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can't found any other DE's packages on the repo.
>>>> 
>>>> You might want to review the mailing list archives for this mailing
>>>> list
>>>> to get a clearer understanding of why that is.  It's been discussed
>>>> before.
>>>> 
>>>> If you or Chris or someone else builds an entire desktop environment
>>>> like Cinnamon and publishes a repo that is kept up to date, I would
>>>> definitely give it a try, at least in a VM.  If someone does this and
>>>> keeps it up to date for a long time and continues to contribute to OI,
>>>> I would probably use that as my main desktop environment.
>>>> 
>>>> Just building it once, without a commitment to keeping it updated,
>>>> isn't
>>>> good for anyone, though.
>>> TBH The only reason OI isn't my "daily driver" is the DE available. If I
>>> had XFCE (what I currently use), or better, Cinnamon. I'd have a hard
>>> time
>>> not using OI. Overall I like it better. But I'm (currently) pretty well
>>> committed to FreeBSD as maintainer of some 160 ports, and I create
>>> installs for all my servers && clients. I've been on BSD since Bill Joy
>>> forked 386BSD, and hacked on various NIX' before that. But if I could
>>> cobble up an OI I could justify as a "daily driver", and something I
>>> could
>>> recommend to my clients. I'd make the switch.
>>> Which brings me to why I initiated this thread. Since I need commitment
>>> to justfy *my* commitment. I thought I'd send out a "feeler" to see if
>>> there was any interest. Appears I'm not the only one. So I'm going to
>>> "take the plunge". I'll start gathering all the information I need to
>>> get
>>> all the dots in a line, so I can start production. Any pointers to help
>>> shorten the trajectory would be *greatly* appreciated. As well as
>>> keeping
>>> the wiki working. ;-)
>> 
>> I'm indifferent to Xfce, but when you start working on Cinnamon and deps,
>> that's something that I would be happy to collaborate on and test. 
>> oi-dev
>> and the irc channels are your best source for help on porting,
I find IRC stressful while I'm working, and somewhat hard to keep up on
(the threads). FreeBSD has a discord channel
(https://discord.com/channels/) -- IRC but also Web && app based. I find
that pretty darn easy to keep up with, and the (web based) UI really
lends itself to getting things done. Oh, and it's free. Works on yer
so-called smart/handheld devices too. :-)
>> and I've
>> gotten good feedback in PRs where I've asked questions or been stuck
>> part way through updating or porting a package.
>> 
>> Also, rather than the wiki, I would highly recommend
>> 
>>     http://docs.openindiana.org/
>> 
>> and then "HandBook->Building with oi-userland".  That's been migrated
>> from
>> the old wiki page and updated and had some corrections and a few
>> clarifications added.  There may still be improvements that could be
>> made, so the first few times through the process, please pay special
>> attention
>> to places where that document misses information or appears
>> incorrect.  If
>> you mention the issues on oi-dev, I'll get PRs submitted (or you can,
>> if you fork the docs too) to try improve things.
>> 
>> Tim
> I will happily merge enhancements to oi-docs.
> And one more thing: We share the Sun Solaris ancestry with Oracle
> Solaris. Some things have diverted during the last decade but the
> solaris-userland
> repository is a first-class source of information and inspiration.
That's a good point, and I considered it. But I was unsure as to the
extent of any divergence.
> 
> Andreas
> 
--Chris

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