[OpenIndiana-discuss] Sun Management Centre

Tue May 21 07:36:39 UTC 2024


On 21/05/2024 09:28, Rainer Heilke wrote:
> Just a quick update:
> I'll still try to see if I can find any OpenIndiana.org references to 
> smc (not having found them yet, I suspect they were third party pages), 
> but I don't think I'll get to play with RBAC. It seems my test system 
> likes to lose any USB drives on reboot, and when/if I get them back, all 
> data is gone. zpool is even telling me that one zpool has a property 
> that has never existed on this box:
> This pool uses the following feature(s) not supported by this system:
>          com.klarasystems:vdev_zaps_v2
> cannot import 'Work': unsupported version or feature

That cannot be handled on OI, see:
<https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/zfs-unsupported-feature-com-klarasystems-vdev_zaps_v2.93029/>

> It's even losing the internal SSD.
> I'm loath to play around with RBAC, or anything else, on my OmniOS 
> backup server. And I doubt I can get any OpenSolaris flavour running on 
> a Raspberry Pi. :/   I even got a pair of 4TB drives for this (they were 
> surprisingly inexpensive).
> To quote Gary Olman's character in 5th Element, "I'm getting very 
> disappointed!"
> Rainer
> I wonder if there's something in the BIOS...
> 
> 
> ------ Original Message ------
>  From "Rainer Heilke" <rheilke at dragonhearth.com>
> To "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" 
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> Date 2024-05-14 11:13:24 AM
> Subject Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sun Management Centre
> 
>>
>>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From "Rolf M. Dietze" <rmd at orbit.in-berlin.de>
>> To "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" 
>> <openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org>
>> Date 2024-05-14 12:43:55 AM
>> Subject Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sun Management Centre
>>
>>>
>>> Quoting Rainer Heilke <rheilke at dragonhearth.com>:
>>>
>>>> On 5/13/24 22:50, Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14. May 2024, at 08:12, Rainer Heilke 
>>>>>> <rheilke at dragonhearth.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>> I keep running into documentation that tells me to do a task by  
>>>>>> firing up the Sun Management Centre, but OI doesn't seem to have  
>>>>>> it, nor can I find any way of getting/installing it. Is it  
>>>>>> available for OpenIndiana? Is it maybe in a different repository?
>>>>>> The documentation needs to either explain how to get it, or any  
>>>>>> reference to it needs to be purged, IMNSH opinion. If the former,  
>>>>>> I may be able to help a bit, as energy levels allow.
>>>>>> ??
>>>>>> Rainer
>>>>> I’m afraid, it is long dead. So yes, if you see the references,  
>>>>> please do file the issue (and patches are also very welcome!).
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> toomas
>>>>
>>>> I'll look into how to file issues, and make a note of the pages 
>>>> I've  already found.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, that means a number of documents need to be fleshed  
>>>> out with the proper chain of commands to perform the functions, and  
>>>> I don't know how much I can help. Aside from limited energy, I 
>>>> never  had to deal with RBAC, etc. This is new-ish territory for me, 
>>>> having  always used sudo when I was working. (I want to learn the 
>>>> "proper"  RBAC way of doing things, even if only for kicks and 
>>>> giggles, which  is why I was looking into this in the first place.)
>>>>
>>>> Rainer
>>> Hi Rainer,
>>>
>>> I use RBAC quite often, on Solaris as well as on OpenIndiana since I
>>> am running Sunray desktops for class on Solaris in kiosk mode to have
>>> the students connect to OpenIndiana machines for their tasks to do.
>>> The students have to do admin stuff on the target systems but are all
>>> homed on one OpenIndiana machine to start from. So RBAC and resource
>>> management are needed. If you reference to the old Solaris 10 
>>> documentation,
>>> both run smoothly. I do not use any GUI but xterm for that as for most
>>> tasks on theses boxes. Have a look in the old documentation. Resource
>>> management works quite the same as on solaris 11, also have a look there
>>>
>>> By the way, I do have an issue with resource management on OpenIndiana,
>>> that is, if a student runs against certain limitations mostly in number
>>> of lwps, the resource management terminates the X server. That it does
>>> for all sessions. Haven't had the time to dig into this and I am not
>>> sure if it is of any interest since my setup is not so commonly used.
>>>
>>> The Sun Management Center was a long and not so enthusiastic story as
>>> since Solaris never had consistent admin GUIs as example smit on AIX 
>>> oder
>>> sam on HP-UX
>>>
>>> Rolf
>>>
>> Thanks, to everyone.
>> I'll try to file issues in the next few days -- I have other 
>> (non-computer) issues to deal with today.
>> I think that before I start asking questions, I need to wrap my head 
>> around the general structure of RBAC. What comes first, that sort of 
>> thing. Then my questions will at least make sense, and I won't be 
>> wasting everyone's time.
>> Till: funny how you mention just dealing with openindiana.org pages. 
>> Oracle's pages all still reference SMC as well. :b Not much help, are 
>> they? ;-)
>> Rainer
>>
>>
>>>
>>
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