[OpenIndiana-discuss] Sun Management Centre

Tue May 21 07:42:46 UTC 2024

> On 21. May 2024, at 10:28, Rainer Heilke <rheilke at dragonhearth.com> wrote:
> 
> Just a quick update:
> I'll still try to see if I can find any OpenIndiana.org references to smc (not having found them yet, I suspect they were third party pages), but I don't think I'll get to play with RBAC. It seems my test system likes to lose any USB drives on reboot, and when/if I get them back, all data is gone. zpool is even telling me that one zpool has a property that has never existed on this box:
> This pool uses the following feature(s) not supported by this system:
>        com.klarasystems:vdev_zaps_v2
> cannot import 'Work': unsupported version or feature

We do not support com.klarasystems:vdev_zaps_v2, so you have used OpenZFS based implementation to create this pool. To create pool which is supposed to be shared between different systems, you need to either create it on illumos, or disable feature flags on creation and enable them as needed.

> It's even losing the internal SSD.
> I'm loath to play around with RBAC, or anything else, on my OmniOS backup server. And I doubt I can get any OpenSolaris flavour running on a Raspberry Pi. :/   I even got a pair of 4TB drives for this (they were surprisingly inexpensive).

There is a work to build arm support, there are even some images to allow to run the current state of the work, but there is still much work ahead about supporting arm.

> To quote Gary Olman's character in 5th Element, "I'm getting very disappointed!"

you can just as well include this one too: “If you want something done, do it yourself” ;)

rgds,
toomas

> Rainer
> I wonder if there's something in the BIOS...
> 
> 
> ------ Original Message ------
> From "Rainer Heilke" <rheilke at dragonhearth.com>
> To "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" <openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org>; "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" <openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org>
> Date 2024-05-14 11:13:24 AM
> Subject Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sun Management Centre
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From "Rolf M. Dietze" <rmd at orbit.in-berlin.de>
>> To "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" <openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org>
>> Date 2024-05-14 12:43:55 AM
>> Subject Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sun Management Centre
>> 
>>> 
>>> Quoting Rainer Heilke <rheilke at dragonhearth.com>:
>>> 
>>>> On 5/13/24 22:50, Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 14. May 2024, at 08:12, Rainer Heilke <rheilke at dragonhearth.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>> I keep running into documentation that tells me to do a task by  firing up the Sun Management Centre, but OI doesn't seem to have  it, nor can I find any way of getting/installing it. Is it  available for OpenIndiana? Is it maybe in a different repository?
>>>>>> The documentation needs to either explain how to get it, or any  reference to it needs to be purged, IMNSH opinion. If the former,  I may be able to help a bit, as energy levels allow.
>>>>>> ??
>>>>>> Rainer
>>>>> I’m afraid, it is long dead. So yes, if you see the references,  please do file the issue (and patches are also very welcome!).
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> toomas
>>>> 
>>>> I'll look into how to file issues, and make a note of the pages I've  already found.
>>>> 
>>>> Unfortunately, that means a number of documents need to be fleshed  out with the proper chain of commands to perform the functions, and  I don't know how much I can help. Aside from limited energy, I never  had to deal with RBAC, etc. This is new-ish territory for me, having  always used sudo when I was working. (I want to learn the "proper"  RBAC way of doing things, even if only for kicks and giggles, which  is why I was looking into this in the first place.)
>>>> 
>>>> Rainer
>>> Hi Rainer,
>>> 
>>> I use RBAC quite often, on Solaris as well as on OpenIndiana since I
>>> am running Sunray desktops for class on Solaris in kiosk mode to have
>>> the students connect to OpenIndiana machines for their tasks to do.
>>> The students have to do admin stuff on the target systems but are all
>>> homed on one OpenIndiana machine to start from. So RBAC and resource
>>> management are needed. If you reference to the old Solaris 10 documentation,
>>> both run smoothly. I do not use any GUI but xterm for that as for most
>>> tasks on theses boxes. Have a look in the old documentation. Resource
>>> management works quite the same as on solaris 11, also have a look there
>>> 
>>> By the way, I do have an issue with resource management on OpenIndiana,
>>> that is, if a student runs against certain limitations mostly in number
>>> of lwps, the resource management terminates the X server. That it does
>>> for all sessions. Haven't had the time to dig into this and I am not
>>> sure if it is of any interest since my setup is not so commonly used.
>>> 
>>> The Sun Management Center was a long and not so enthusiastic story as
>>> since Solaris never had consistent admin GUIs as example smit on AIX oder
>>> sam on HP-UX
>>> 
>>> Rolf
>>> 
>> Thanks, to everyone.
>> I'll try to file issues in the next few days -- I have other (non-computer) issues to deal with today.
>> I think that before I start asking questions, I need to wrap my head around the general structure of RBAC. What comes first, that sort of thing. Then my questions will at least make sense, and I won't be wasting everyone's time.
>> Till: funny how you mention just dealing with openindiana.org pages. Oracle's pages all still reference SMC as well. :b Not much help, are they? ;-)
>> Rainer
>> 
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